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Robin Roefs šŸ‡³šŸ‡± compendium

3.142 said:
Our maximum allowed loss for PSR will increase significantly next season, so no reason to fear over that as of now.
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It can come to bite eventually. In short, no one, not even city or Liverpool, can really afford these days to let an academy product walk out the door for nothing. I guess thatā€™s the biggest flaw of PSR, itā€™s more expedient to sell someone whoā€™s been at your club since primary school age than a foreigner you bought.

Patterson for me will stay as second choice, the Neil situation is a big one though. The club arenā€™t desperate now, his agent could say ā€˜I demand he gets 60K a weekā€™ and we can sayā€™ ā€˜thanks, but no thanksā€™, given heā€™s clearly not in our strongest 11. Big decision to be made IMO.
 

nijmegenaar said:
I read the article in Dutch. It is saying Sunderland bid more than the asking price of ā‚¬10m (i.e. half a million more and another 3m in add-ons) to ensure he'd go here and not to another club.

The astronomical part is mainly that our previous record transfer was ā‚¬5.5m. ā‚¬10.5m is about half NEC's annual budget for the whole club.
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Thank you! In answer to your opening post, Roefs will almost certainly be our number 1
 
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nijmegenaar said:
Hello all, I've seen all of Roefs' senior team games as I have a season ticket at NEC. Made an account here as I wanted to see what y'all thought of him and will probably be following the club if he actually gets some time on the pitch.

So some context:

Roefs was always very highly rated in the academy at our club. Joined senior team training camps from age 16 for example. Last summer, we sold Jasper Cillessen (ex Barca, Valencia, Dutch national team and also from our youth academy) so that Roefs would get enough playtime.

Seen a lot of questions here on his passing and that his stats on this aren't great. This, in my opinion, is down mostly to our playstyle last year. We started out by playing from the back quite a bit, but then some of our best build up players got injured or lost form, so most of the season he was just told to hoof it long to strikers that generally weren't great at receiving those types of passes. I think with the right players around him at the back, he's above average on the ball. He's confident with both legs and generally has a decent to good pass. Also not shy

His main weakness last year was that we conceded 2 or 3 goals from direct free kicks where Roefs didn't look well-positioned. This was all in the first half of the season though and he seems to have learned from that.

Aside from that fact that he's obviously pretty good at saving shots, the thing that we always really liked in the stadium was how much he comes off his line to grab a cross. He does that way better than the far more experienced Cillessen.

I really look forward to seeing him in the PL, hopefully he becomes the first choice GK.
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thank you Sounds encouraging and he will likely be our no 1
 
0321safc said:
It can come to bite eventually. In short, no one, not even city or Liverpool, can really afford these days to let an academy product walk out the door for nothing. I guess thatā€™s the biggest flaw of PSR, itā€™s more expedient to sell someone whoā€™s been at your club since primary school age than a foreigner you bought.

Patterson for me will stay as second choice, the Neil situation is a big one though. The club arenā€™t desperate now, his agent could say ā€˜I demand he gets 60K a weekā€™ and we can sayā€™ ā€˜thanks, but no thanksā€™, given heā€™s clearly not in our strongest 11. Big decision to be made IMO.
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That's all true, but I don't think PSR for 2026-27 is a major consideration in whether Neil is offered a new contract now he may sign.

Cash flow will be a bigger factor in selling / keeping.
 
nijmegenaar said:
Hello all, I've seen all of Roefs' senior team games as I have a season ticket at NEC. Made an account here as I wanted to see what y'all thought of him and will probably be following the club if he actually gets some time on the pitch.

So some context:

Roefs was always very highly rated in the academy at our club. Joined senior team training camps from age 16 for example. Last summer, we sold Jasper Cillessen (ex Barca, Valencia, Dutch national team and also from our youth academy) so that Roefs would get enough playtime.

Seen a lot of questions here on his passing and that his stats on this aren't great. This, in my opinion, is down mostly to our playstyle last year. We started out by playing from the back quite a bit, but then some of our best build up players got injured or lost form, so most of the season he was just told to hoof it long to strikers that generally weren't great at receiving those types of passes. I think with the right players around him at the back, he's above average on the ball. He's confident with both legs and generally has a decent to good pass. Also not shy

His main weakness last year was that we conceded 2 or 3 goals from direct free kicks where Roefs didn't look well-positioned. This was all in the first half of the season though and he seems to have learned from that.

Aside from that fact that he's obviously pretty good at saving shots, the thing that we always really liked in the stadium was how much he comes off his line to grab a cross. He does that way better than the far more experienced Cillessen.

I really look forward to seeing him in the PL, hopefully he becomes the first choice GK.
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Cheers.

He will be first choice. We arenā€™t spending that fee on a benchwarmer for goalkeeper position.
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ā€˜Significantly exceededā€™ is a bit exaggerated.
 
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SAFC Wilks said:
Cheers.

He will be first choice. We arenā€™t spending that fee on a benchwarmer for goalkeeper position.

ā€˜Significantly exceededā€™ is a bit exaggerated.
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Oh aye

ā‚¬10m is Ā£8.62m

ā‚¬13.5m is ā‚¬11.64m

They can add a new wing onto the stadium with that life changing dosh
 
mackemdr said:
Hand on heart

Since Speakman came in, how many of our signings have you heard of?
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At the end of last summer heā€™d signed 49 players. I had heard of 16. After that we signed Connolly, Le Fee, Danns, all of whom Iā€™d heard of but would not claim to know much about.
So far this summer Reinildo, Adingra and Xhaka.
 
Downey saying he expects at least 2 or 3 new signings while talking about Roefs signing, not sure if he's just speculating as I think we need 2cbs, a striker and a winger/striker?
 
ChrisAshley said:
Downey saying he expects at least 2 or 3 new signings while talking about Roefs signing, not sure if he's just speculating as I think we need 2cbs, a striker and a winger/striker?
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He will know bits but will fill in the gaps and some guesswork. He said on the RR podcast aired this morning that we wanted experience in GK position.

We've signed one with much less than Patterson.
 
ChrisAshley said:
Downey saying he expects at least 2 or 3 new signings while talking about Roefs signing, not sure if he's just speculating as I think we need 2cbs, a striker and a winger/striker?
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Maybe look at some loans near the end of the window? Hopefully we'll have good riddance of most of the deadwood by then aswell.
 
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