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Wansbeck Viking said:
Mass walk out on 69th minute on your final home game against Cardiff (despite winning)
Sackpardew.com, the banner that said “this freak show is not where nufc is about”
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The fractured nature of our support was then underlined when greater numbers than had walked out remained in their places to applaud the squad on a lap of honour - although the vast majority of the crowd had exited in the moments before and after the full time whistle.

So some people legged it on 69 minutes. The way you lot go on the place emptied at that point.
 


keybuk said:
From nufc.com
The fractured nature of our support was then underlined when greater numbers than had walked out remained in their places to applaud the squad on a lap of honour - although the vast majority of the crowd had exited in the moments before and after the full time whistle.

So some people legged it on 69 minutes. The way you lot go on the place emptied at that point.
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Ok Michael.
 
keybuk said:
Just because a few noisy people organise a banner and set up a website it doesn't mean that they carry all the fans with them.

Of course you lot are so different. Third top of league 1 and there are no dissenting voices, apart from those that I read on here whining about Jack Ross and his tactics on Saturday evening.

There's always someone who complains, occasionally they can generate a bit of publicity, but for the most part they speak for themselves.
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Unreal revisionism :lol:
 
What A Waster said:
Hughton wasn't "hounded out".
As you have got this wrong, do you think there's a chance you may have other things wrong? You're arguing about your opinion as if it's fact, but I'm not sure what research you have done.
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Your fan base is made up of 90% muppets and 10% weirdos. Ive done the research
 
keybuk said:
From nufc.com
The fractured nature of our support was then underlined when greater numbers than had walked out remained in their places to applaud the squad on a lap of honour - although the vast majority of the crowd had exited in the moments before and after the full time whistle.

So some people legged it on 69 minutes. The way you lot go on the place emptied at that point.
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If you don’t like the way people go on don’t come on here then
 
Ferdinand will be gutted today mind. Bong eye in the Chronicle has said he made a fool of himself with his comments. Doubt he'll get any sleep tonight.
 
foolzy said:
Do the club pay Ashley interest on what they owe him?
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All the loans from Ashley are interest free. Looking at their accounts, there have been no reductions in that debt in recent seasons. He takes no salary. Transactions between NUFC and Sports Direct are fully disclosed in the accounts, and are stated to be on "normal commercial terms". Yet apparently Ashley is "trousering the cash" from any transfer surplus. They're not only deluded, they're financially illiterate as well.

foolzy said:
Hmm... Their own website say that the owner of NUFC is a limited company Corporate information Perhaps the more legally minded on here can say if Ashley is indeed liable for any debts?
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MASH Holdings is Ashley's personal investment company 100% owned by him. It also holds his shares in Sports Direct. Totally standard procedure. Just as the shares in Sunderland Ltd are held by Madrox Partners, a company co-owned by Donoald, Methven and Sartori.

In any event, under limited liability (that's what the Ltd in a name means), the shareholders are not liable for a company's debts, unless they have separately made personal guarantees to the lenders.
 
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tunstallhill said:
Jesus H Christ. You do yourself and the stereotype of your clueless fans no favours like.

Finished 10th last season. Hounded out parcel, Houghton and Robson when in the top half.

Now all they want is to be 10th-7th and everyone will be happy. What utter nonsense. Yous will twist on 21 man who you trying to kid. You can't stand anyone being bigger or better. Yous have no clue what it means to just support the team. How on earth will yous cope if/when you have a sustained period in the 2nd tier, just like countless other clubs of similar stature as NUFC (sheff wed, villa, forrest, leeds etc.. ) bunch of whaling fannies. Fuck off
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They were 10th with BSA. That wasnt good enough for them as well.

The only two managers they have worshipped in recent times as Messiahs are Sheera and the FSW. Both of whom took them down.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
All the loans from Ashley are interest free. Looking at their accounts, there have been no reductions in that debt in recent seasons. He takes no salary. Transactions between NUFC and Sports Direct are fully disclosed in the accounts, and are stated to be on "normal commercial terms". Yet apparently Ashley is "trousering the cash" from any transfer surplus. They're not only deluded, they're financially illiterate as well.



MASH Holdings is Ashley's personal investment company 100% owned by him. It also holds his shares in Sports Direct. Totally standard procedure. Just as the shares in Sunderland Ltd are held by Madrox Partners, a company co-owned by Donoald, Methven and Sartori.

In any event, under limited liability (that's what the Ltd in a name means), the shareholders are not liable for a company's debts, unless they have separately made personal guarantees to the lenders.
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@Sima - tagged you only as a follow up to what you alluded to yesterday about him being personally liable.
 
keybuk said:
No that's what you believe. Most level headed supporters know that we can't get top 6 as the financial differences are simply too much.A more realistic expectation would be 7th to 10th. The owner won't release money to make that possible. He'd rather aim for 15th to 17th.
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For the very good reason that the increased revenue between 7th and 17th is around £21m Premier League Prize Money 2018 (Confirmed) . If it needed £200m to do it, that's a 10 year payback period just on that initial investment, plus, of course, you then have spend at least a quarter of that every year maintaining that position with no additional revenue - unless, of course, you can fund new players by selling old ones. That is why net spend matters - if you only spend, and don't sell, you end up in the clarts as we. know only too well
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
For the very good reason that the increased revenue between 7th and 17th is around £21m Premier League Prize Money 2018 (Confirmed) . If it needed £200m to do it, that's a 10 year payback period just on that initial investment, plus, of course, you then have spend at least a quarter of that every year maintaining that position with no additional revenue - unless, of course, you can fund new players by selling old ones. That is why net spend matters - if you only spend, and don't sell, you end up in the clarts as we. know only too well
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Part of their problem seems to be making profit in the transfer wages then paying out massive wages with it, at least if you buy players with the proceeds you turn the money over when you sell them rather than just tipping it down the drain in wages.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
All the loans from Ashley are interest free. Looking at their accounts, there have been no reductions in that debt in recent seasons. He takes no salary. Transactions between NUFC and Sports Direct are fully disclosed in the accounts, and are stated to be on "normal commercial terms". Yet apparently Ashley is "trousering the cash" from any transfer surplus. They're not only deluded, they're financially illiterate as well.



MASH Holdings is Ashley's personal investment company 100% owned by him. It also holds his shares in Sports Direct. Totally standard procedure. Just as the shares in Sunderland Ltd are held by Madrox Partners, a company co-owned by Donoald, Methven and Sartori.

In any event, under limited liability (that's what the Ltd in a name means), the shareholders are not liable for a company's debts, unless they have separately made personal guarantees to the lenders.
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He has taken a portion of the loan back since the accounts were published. Was confirmed at the fans forum meeting in September (think it was September), but the amount was not disclosed.

Grumpy Old Man said:
For the very good reason that the increased revenue between 7th and 17th is around £21m Premier League Prize Money 2018 (Confirmed) . If it needed £200m to do it, that's a 10 year payback period just on that initial investment, plus, of course, you then have spend at least a quarter of that every year maintaining that position with no additional revenue - unless, of course, you can fund new players by selling old ones. That is why net spend matters - if you only spend, and don't sell, you end up in the clarts as we. know only too well
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Newcastle pay for players outright. They have said that they believe they get a better deal if paying the full amount up front. So if there isn't enough in the bank, even a player of £12m is beyond our reach.
They sell players and take instalments, as they believe it incentivizes the buying club to pay more.
Not even sure if that's relevant on reflection, but I've typed it out anyway
 
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