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Regis le Bris - confirmed

Perryqhill said:
You might be right. If we can keep some key players fit, which we couldn't last season with the left backs, then simply improving style and finishing higher up may look like progress.

I do think we'll have difficultly scoring regularly or with penetrative forward play though if we don't sign a striker and if we have the likes of Jobe playing in advanced midfield roles.
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I still think Clarke will go and that's going to send us backwards in terms of losing his goals/assists as we needed someone to add to that, not just replace it.

We've also had this idea of possession based football being used as our styel of play, but it doesn't fit with the players we have. As our first season in the Championship shown, we were built for the quick counter attack and playing on the front foot. That has now given away to playing in our own half with slow build up and very little in the way of foward movement.

Don't get me wrong, a well rounded target man would help us out massively in getting further up the pitch, and it looks like RGB wants to play that way, with quicker movements and passing, but how does that come across in training when the coaches that have been here before RLB believe in a different approach?

I expect Regis to be a much better head coach than Beale, but when you come into a working environment on your own, it can sometimes be difficult to get your ideas across. They can often be met with "That's not how we do things here". Hopefully, that's not the case, but we're expecting a lot for just this fella to turn things around with the same coaching staff as before.
 

Thatheaderman said:
Watching it I see no difference to last season the way we play. Regis spends interviews saying they need to pick up what he wants them to do and Clarke said the same himself after Blackpool game.

Regis needs coaches who can get this across instead of Doctor and Prods or he will be a very busy man.
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Who?
 
Thatheaderman said:
Watching it I see no difference to last season the way we play. Regis spends interviews saying they need to pick up what he wants them to do and Clarke said the same himself after Blackpool game.

Regis needs coaches who can get this across instead of Doctor and Prods or he will be a very busy man.
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We are playing much more positively in possession. Lots of forward passes and first time lay-offs, and movement ahead of the ball. Browne's play is a good example.
What we still desperately need is a set piece/restart coach, because we are more vulnerable than threatening from corners and free kicks in their half. A good man with sharp ideas would transform our performance.
Plus a proper striker obviously.
 
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MickeyV said:
We are playing much more positively in possession. Lots of forward passes and first time lay-offs, and movement ahead of the ball. Browne's play is a good example.
What we still desperately need is a set piece/restart coach, because we are more vulnerable than threatening from corners and free kicks in their half. A good man with sharp ideas would transform our performance.
Plus a proper striker obviously.
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Browne yes but not a great deal difference as Jobe generally slows it down a lot of the time. Of course there's times to do that but 90% from him is too much. I still feel its work it about and it ends up with Clarke. Hopefully the new RW lad takes a bit of it off Clarke.

I do think Neil has increased tempo.

Forward would change it altogether, but....
 
Thatheaderman said:
Watching it I see no difference to last season the way we play. Regis spends interviews saying they need to pick up what he wants them to do and Clarke said the same himself after Blackpool game.

Regis needs coaches who can get this across instead of Doctor and Prods or he will be a very busy man.
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Exactly. We have the same blokes working with the players on a daily basis. The approach is highly unlikely to change. For me, RLB having his own choice of coaches is as important as a striker.
 
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Thatheaderman said:
Watching it I see no difference to last season the way we play. Regis spends interviews saying they need to pick up what he wants them to do and Clarke said the same himself after Blackpool game.

Regis needs coaches who can get this across instead of Doctor and Prods or he will be a very busy man.
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it's a lot different, we've never pressed as high as we have and we have never tried to counter-attack as fast as we do now with a lot less touches, we rarely used to switch the ball either. I advise you watch this - it's a good breakdown -
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RGZ said:
it's a lot different, we've never pressed as high as we have and we have never tried to counter-attack as fast as we do now with a lot less touches, we rarely used to switch the ball either. I advise you watch this - it's a good breakdown -
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Dress it up any way you want. Get the ball to Clarke and hope for the best is the only tactic i can see. Same as last year.
 
because the entire side know we have nowt to hit up front, the reflex will always be to give the ball to clarke.

If he goes were are fkd, and even if he stays opposition know hot to stifle us, it is critical we get a decent player (2 ideally) up top to be the out ball, the focus, and actually to free up clarke etc to be even more of a threat, not to be marked out of every game.

we are as predictable as fk, and that's going to hamstring Le Bris from the get go.
 
RGZ said:
it's a lot different, we've never pressed as high as we have and we have never tried to counter-attack as fast as we do now with a lot less touches, we rarely used to switch the ball either. I advise you watch this - it's a good breakdown -
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Just from memory on Saturday in the first half we created chances when we won the ball in their half 3 or 4 times. Mayenda's left footed shot very early on we won it from their left back, they played a ball back to GK because of our pressing which the keeper had to make a last ditched tackle to stop a Roberts tap in, the Jobe deflected shot came about through closing them down high up.

It was noticeably different to Beale ball, and miles away from the 5 at the back stuff Dodds was doing at the end of last season.
 
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Mboma said:
I still think Clarke will go and that's going to send us backwards in terms of losing his goals/assists as we needed someone to add to that, not just replace it.

We've also had this idea of possession based football being used as our styel of play, but it doesn't fit with the players we have. As our first season in the Championship shown, we were built for the quick counter attack and playing on the front foot. That has now given away to playing in our own half with slow build up and very little in the way of foward movement.

Don't get me wrong, a well rounded target man would help us out massively in getting further up the pitch, and it looks like RGB wants to play that way, with quicker movements and passing, but how does that come across in training when the coaches that have been here before RLB believe in a different approach?

I expect Regis to be a much better head coach than Beale, but when you come into a working environment on your own, it can sometimes be difficult to get your ideas across. They can often be met with "That's not how we do things here". Hopefully, that's not the case, but we're expecting a lot for just this fella to turn things around with the same coaching staff as before.
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Agree with much of that. However when Beale came in, and some of this can maybe be aimed at Beale (and again the way they're coached and who is coaching them), there was an attempt to switch the style of play being more compact and quicker on the counter.

Whilst one or two players who might help with that were injured, too often it ended with a slow down at the top end of the pitch as certain players didn't have the ability, mental capacity or knowledge in the final third to capitalise or often get the better of their opposition. Worse than that there were games where we had wide open spaces and the likes of Ba, Jobe, Burstow (too often) and even Hemir on one or two notable occasions just absolutely messed opportunities on the counter that you would think were heaven sent.

The striker situation doesn't help there either as often we aren't able to get in behind or stretch sides. If we show any inclination in doing it, the lesser but often well organised sides know they can drop back and get behind the ball and often just snuff us out.
 
Perryqhill said:
Agree with much of that. However when Beale came in, and some of this can maybe be aimed at Beale (and again the way they're coached and who is coaching them), there was an attempt to switch the style of play being more compact and quicker on the counter.

Whilst one or two players who might help with that were injured, too often it ended with a slow down at the top end of the pitch as certain players didn't have the ability, mental capacity or knowledge in the final third to capitalise or often get the better of their opposition. Worse than that there were games where we had wide open spaces and the likes of Ba, Jobe, Burstow (too often) and even Hemir on one or two notable occasions just absolutely messed opportunities on the counter that you would think were heaven sent.

The striker situation doesn't help there either as often we aren't able to get in behind or stretch sides. If we show any inclination in doing it, the lesser but often well organised sides know they can drop back and get behind the ball and often just snuff us out.
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gaffers trying (or being forced to) be smarter than they are capable of being as a result of total deficiency in striking options.

We can keep pushing it round, excusing speeakman, talking about tough market to find lads etc. but it is glaringly obvious and it is severely restricting progress that we have a void in the most important position in any team.
 
Thatheaderman said:
Imminent
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Is that new manager imminent or new striker imminent?
Mboma said:
I still think Clarke will go and that's going to send us backwards in terms of losing his goals/assists as we needed someone to add to that, not just replace it.

We've also had this idea of possession based football being used as our styel of play, but it doesn't fit with the players we have. As our first season in the Championship shown, we were built for the quick counter attack and playing on the front foot. That has now given away to playing in our own half with slow build up and very little in the way of foward movement.

Don't get me wrong, a well rounded target man would help us out massively in getting further up the pitch, and it looks like RGB wants to play that way, with quicker movements and passing, but how does that come across in training when the coaches that have been here before RLB believe in a different approach?

I expect Regis to be a much better head coach than Beale, but when you come into a working environment on your own, it can sometimes be difficult to get your ideas across. They can often be met with "That's not how we do things here". Hopefully, that's not the case, but we're expecting a lot for just this fella to turn things around with the same coaching staff as before.
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What makes you expect that, he's French? He's not Beale? His incredible lowest points total for his last/only club?
 
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RGZ said:
it's a lot different, we've never pressed as high as we have and we have never tried to counter-attack as fast as we do now with a lot less touches, we rarely used to switch the ball either. I advise you watch this - it's a good breakdown -
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Do you think RLB was given assurances on staff and signings before he came?

All managers think they can make a difference to a new job, but given we still have no quality up front and he's working with the old staff, I can't see anything remarkably changing from last season.

Do you think Speakman told him we do okay without a number 9, as he mentioned at the fans forum event?
 
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