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Rafa - West Ham keen - Sky Sperts

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I'm not sure what other facts you would need.

What else you would judge a manager on other than league placing and team performance (which facilitates league placing anyway).

Grayson was a terrible manager for us as he is judged on his league placing when he left, which was in and around the bottom three. Anyone suggesting otherwise would have to be mentally deficient.

Which despite your best efforts to prove otherwise, I don't believe you are.
Pardew was shit. He had one season at the Mags where he massively overachieved. They were white for most his spell in charge and he's proven how shite genus sibsewuentsu. Would you want him here? Proven class manager because he finished 5th once?
 
Pardew was shit. He had one season at the Mags where he massively overachieved. They were white for most his spell in charge and he's proven how shite genus sibsewuentsu. Would you want him here? Proven class manager because he finished 5th once?
got us to a Cup Final too

and had the footballing knowledge to leave Tevez and Mascherano on the bench for 6 moths so he could pick Hayden Mullins and Marlon Harewood instead
 

Pardew is shite basically.

I agree as has been proved everywhere he goes.We said he was a wanker even when finishing 5th we all new he was a thundercunt.Bit like Benitez, he couldnt save us but we knew if we stuck with him he will turn out fine...proved right again.not so f***ing thick us Mags like.
 
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Pardew didn't set the stage for your relegation, it was tufty.
To be honest it was the board, then Pardew, then Carver, then Tufty, and so on.

I'm not sure what other facts you would need.

What else you would judge a manager on other than league placing and team performance (which facilitates league placing anyway).

Grayson was a terrible manager for us as he is judged on his league placing when he left, which was in and around the bottom three. Anyone suggesting otherwise would have to be mentally deficient.

Which despite your best efforts to prove otherwise, I don't believe you are.
I wouldn't judge a manager on one season from his longer tenure. That's cherry picking, and futile. I'd take into account his entire career at the club, his career before and after, his behaviour, his team's performances and so on.

Had Pardew only been in charge for that one season, and hadn't acted the ****, you may have had a point.
 
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Mags flooding onto a Sunderland board to call us obsessed .... I think I'll cope :lol:

It's the close season, there's no takeover news and there's been similar threads on Everton and Arsenal.

As many of the.comments, on this thread, are people responding to Mag posts it's bound to be bigger.
Obsessed? Don't think so, it's just there's nowt happening at your club for you lot to talk about.
I have a feeling that is about to change

Bollocks you're probably sat at home unable to see your feet because of the kite on you covered by a gravy stained skunk top with the curtains drawn in your shitty little bedroom with Shearer and Keegan posters on the wall whilst your ma waits on you hand and foot. All this whilst getting ready to celebrate your 48th Birthday.


I know its brilliant that the FSW could be f***ing off leaving you lot bereft.
You can put the tissues away.
Wankfest over, time for the padlock
 
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Fuckin hell, the piss stained dithering old bastard is in full flow.

Imagine being of pensionable age and spending your days on your rivals forum. That takes obsession to whole new level.
 
Pardew was shit. He had one season at the Mags where he massively overachieved. They were white for most his spell in charge and he's proven how shite genus sibsewuentsu. Would you want him here? Proven class manager because he finished 5th once?

Smog.
 
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