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Racism at Yorkshire CCC

tynevalleyblackcat said:
To be fair there are more than one posts on here from you that allude to Rafiq being a less than likeable individual and you have used that to attempt to lesson the racism against him.

Just to be clear, no matter what an utter **** Rafiq may or indeed may not be, using racist langauge is not acceptable. If he's a **** then call him a ****. Those posts just come across as deflection and make you look like an apologist.

Action, admission, contrition, resignations and real meaningful change.

I have close friends who are members at Yorkshire who probably will not renew. The financial hit goes further than just the sponsorship.
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Also, I wonder why a bloke who was being racially abused by a number of people at his place of work might have not been the most fun to be around? It's a difficult one, isn't it?
 

GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Yorkshire County Cricket Club has launched an investigation after another former player alleged he was subject to repeated racial abuse at the club.

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Lets hope its quicker than the last one eh.........:rolleyes:
Ashley In!! said:
Also, I wonder why a bloke who was being racially abused by a number of people at his place of work might have not been the most fun to be around? It's a difficult one, isn't it?
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I read it as he didn't fit in, wasnt one of the lads, kept himself to himself, did not socialise with the rest of the team.

Maybe there was a reason for all of that?
GordonMuchallNo1Fan said:
Yorkshire County Cricket Club has launched an investigation after another former player alleged he was subject to repeated racial abuse at the club.

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There will be a certain poster along shortly to tell us all that this new complainat had rampant BO and refused to get the cakes in on his birthday.....
 
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scaly_piscine said:
I haven't read the BBC article, but read the Cricinfo one - I'm assuming BBC's one just used their details. I find the implication that there's institutionalised racism based on demographic of a playing staff extremely tedious, sorry. I'm just sick to death of reading this crap from BLM and other radical leftists. I'm sick of the double standards.

The whole suicide thing has been painted as if it's all down to racism (PS if it's discrimination based on being Muslim, then Muslim is not a race and it's not racist) which seems rather hyperbolic given the awful event with the still-born child.

Are people morons? Yes. Should they be dealt with? Yes. It shouldn't be about whether someone plays the race card.

The fact of life is Asian ethnicity are underrepresented in cricket all over the world. Those of a black background are overrepresented. India should be basically invincible, given their pool of players. They're not. Look at the talent West Indies produce with a passing interest in cricket and barely any population. That kind of explosive build is replicated in other sports, notable sprinting. It's genetics not racism. Ultimately everyone cops abuse, favouritism and all the rest of it. Don't let it be an excuse as to why you don't make it.
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This aged well.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
To be fair there are more than one posts on here from you that allude to Rafiq being a less than likeable individual and you have used that to attempt to lesson the racism against him.

Just to be clear, no matter what an utter **** Rafiq may or indeed may not be, using racist langauge is not acceptable. If he's a **** then call him a ****. Those posts just come across as deflection and make you look like an apologist.
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I think if you look a little more carefully you will see words from me ( actual explicit ones )saying racist language is always wrong . I'm still just not 100% confident of Rafiqs reliability on the timbre of historic relationships given what I have been told of his character .
I like a full story and (seemingly wrongly) presume everyone else does. I am not fully convinced Rafiq being chased round in an exclusionary fashion purely on grounds of his race is definitely the full story . It might be though.
That being said if what comes out of this is ridding Yorkshire of any racism that does exist I will be happy and at the very least racist terminology will have gone as of now.
 
Skandhaless said:
I think if you look a little more carefully you will see words from me ( actual explicit ones )saying racist language is always wrong . I'm still just not 100% confident of Rafiqs reliability on the timbre of historic relationships given what I have been told of his character .
I like a full story and (seemingly wrongly) presume everyone else does. I am not fully convinced Rafiq being chased round in an exclusionary fashion purely on grounds of his race is definitely the full story . It might be though.
That being said if what comes out of this is ridding Yorkshire of any racism that does exist I will be happy and at the very least racist terminology will have gone as of now.
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:lol:

Amazing. So you’ve gone from saying that it’s ok to abuse him to now saying you’re still not convinced he was racially abused despite someone literally admitting using racist terms to his face. No wonder Yorkshire is in the mess it’s in with people like you associated with it.
 
West_Winger said:
:lol:

Amazing. So you’ve gone from saying that it’s ok to abuse him to now saying you’re still not convinced he was racially abused despite someone literally admitting using racist terms to his face. No wonder Yorkshire is in the mess it’s in with people like you associated with it.
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and two others (so far) verifying another accusation he put forward... and the county itself verifying other accusations in their own report.
 
Skandhaless said:
I think if you look a little more carefully you will see words from me ( actual explicit ones )saying racist language is always wrong . I'm still just not 100% confident of Rafiqs reliability on the timbre of historic relationships given what I have been told of his character .
I like a full story and (seemingly wrongly) presume everyone else does. I am not fully convinced Rafiq being chased round in an exclusionary fashion purely on grounds of his race is definitely the full story . It might be though.
That being said if what comes out of this is ridding Yorkshire of any racism that does exist I will be happy and at the very least racist terminology will have gone as of now.
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That is yet more hear'say that attacks his character and presumably those people telling you this are/were embedded deep into YCCC otherwise how the hell would they know? For god's sake take a step away from it and look at what you are posting and gte some perspective.

Its not acceptable to use racist langauge even if the target of the racist language is an utter **** (which I highly doubt by the way). Do you understand or are you just an apologist?
 
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Liverpool Beachball said:
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It's taken sponsors to withdraw and for MPs to get stuck in for things to start and progress having tried badly to brush this under the carpet. The loss of Nike as a sponsor will cost them a fortune for example, hit them in the pocket. This is only the start. Need more from the ECB who up until yesterday have been incredibly cowardly and weak.
 
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tynevalleyblackcat said:
That is yet more hear'say that attacks his character. That has nothing to do with what we are discussing.

Its not acceptable to use racist langauge even if the target of the racist language is an utter ****. Do you understand or are you just an apologist?
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What part of " racist language is always wrong" did you not read in the actual post you quoted .
 
Skandhaless said:
I think if you look a little more carefully you will see words from me ( actual explicit ones )saying racist language is always wrong . I'm still just not 100% confident of Rafiqs reliability on the timbre of historic relationships given what I have been told of his character .
I like a full story and (seemingly wrongly) presume everyone else does. I am not fully convinced Rafiq being chased round in an exclusionary fashion purely on grounds of his race is definitely the full story . It might be though.
That being said if what comes out of this is ridding Yorkshire of any racism that does exist I will be happy and at the very least racist terminology will have gone as of now.
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Victim blaming shite.
 
Skandhaless said:
I think if you look a little more carefully you will see words from me ( actual explicit ones )saying racist language is always wrong . I'm still just not 100% confident of Rafiqs reliability on the timbre of historic relationships given what I have been told of his character .
I like a full story and (seemingly wrongly) presume everyone else does. I am not fully convinced Rafiq being chased round in an exclusionary fashion purely on grounds of his race is definitely the full story . It might be though.
That being said if what comes out of this is ridding Yorkshire of any racism that does exist I will be happy and at the very least racist terminology will have gone as of now.
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You like a full story?

simple question: who hasn’t produced the report?
Skandhaless said:
Yes, yes I have, thanks for noticing 😄
Am I not allowed to come from Yorkshire now like ?
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Of course you are. But at least your fellow Yorkshiremen on here have recognised the issue, rather than making such a crass gesture
 
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Skandhaless said:
What part of " racist language is always wrong" did you not read in the actual post you quoted .
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I’m going to guess the part where you questioned whether he was racially abused because you heard rumours about him being a twat, despite the club, it’s players and senior leaders admitting racist language was used towards him. You’re a disgrace.
 
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