Question

[dangermows]

If a fielder is sprinting for a catch towards the boundary rope, takes the catch and is unable to stop himself from going over the rope its ruled not a catch.

Could the fielder, upon realising he is unable to stop before the rope, throw the ball up immediately after the catch in apparent celebration (Ian Bell for example tends to hoy the ball away almost immediately after a catch) and the catch stand?

*I know you can throw it up, step over the rope and then come back on and catch it but wondered if that example above would be legit (say one step after catching it you hoy it in celebration before taking the next step over the rope.

 

[Steak Pie]

The Umpires have to judge that you have completed the catch, so probably not.

 

[chelt_mackem]

I would assume it would be at the discretion of the umpire as to whether the fielder was in control of the ball. Assuming the fielder had enough control of the ball to throw it up before he stepped over the rope, the batsman would be out before the ball left the fielder's hands.

I think...

 

[dangermows]

The Umpires have to judge that you have completed the catch, so probably not.

That was my theory, but my mate reckons one step is enough for it to be deemed a catch?

 

[Steak Pie]

That was my theory, but my mate reckons one step is enough for it to be deemed a catch?

Technically, perhaps. But I reckon if it was clear the fielder was going over the rope, then you can't give it out caught.

There's no rules about one step or any of that crap (for example, slips might not move at all before they throw the ball up), it's all about 'completing' the catch. I doubt it would ever happen.

Not now that Shakoor Rana has retired.......

 

[AgelessStranger]

Any excuse to get this shown :-D

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi0M5s7Xugc[/ame]

 

[Aleem Dar]

I think the interpretation is you have to have "full control of your body upon completing the catch".

So if you're still running full pelt towards the boundary, then no, it wouldn't be a catch.

 

[TwasOnTheFifthOfMay]

That was my theory, but my mate reckons one step is enough for it to be deemed a catch?

This is definitely not true, and never has been.

There have been changes in this rule, for example you used to be able to lean against a boundary fence, or even sit or stand on one (but not stand on a rope) and the catch would be legal, but I think that changed.

And, you didn't used to be able to catch the ball, throw it in the air when you realised you couldn't stop, then recatch it yourself after coming back over the line, but I thnk you might be able to do that now.

I would assume it would be at the discretion of the umpire as to whether the fielder was in control of the ball. Assuming the fielder had enough control of the ball to throw it up before he stepped over the rope, the batsman would be out before the ball left the fielder's hands.

I think...

But it's control over yourself too.

Law 32.3. A fair catch

A catch shall be considered to have been fairly made if,

(a) throughout the act of making the catch

(i) any fielder in contact with the ball is within the field of play. See 4 below.

(ii) the ball is at no time in contact with any object grounded beyond the boundary.

The act of making the catch shall start from the time when the ball in flight comes into contact with some part of a fielder’s person other than a protective helmet, and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control both over the ball and over his own movement.

 

[Mackem DJ]

I remember a few fielders who have been so excited at taking a catch that in going to chuck the ball up in celebration immediately after, they have fumbled the ball & had it ruled as a drop.

 

[Randy Ostrich]

Law 32.3. A fair catch

A catch shall be considered to have been fairly made if,

(a) throughout the act of making the catch

(i) any fielder in contact with the ball is within the field of play. See 4 below.

(ii) the ball is at no time in contact with any object grounded beyond the boundary.

The act of making the catch shall start from the time when the ball in flight comes into contact with some part of a fielder’s person other than a protective helmet, and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control both over the ball and over his own movement.

Sounds fairly conclusive then - no catch

 

[is BobBob lost]

Any excuse to get this shown :-D

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