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Quarter Term Report

brandon

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Was thinking about doing it at the end of the current game, but it’s already clear that we need a complete miracle to get a positive result out of the trip to Sussex.

Poor. Very poor.

I was very vocal coming into the season about how confident I was that we could not only challenge for promotion, but that we could challenge for the title. I was almost expectant that we would be in and around the promotion places and two games in I felt justified in thinking that. We’d battered Glamorgan and Leicestershire and but for some better weather at Cardiff and a livelier than stone dead pitch at CLS we’d have been on 46 points after the opening pair of fixtures. I wasn’t overly worried that we couldn’t get over the line.

We were soundly beaten by a good side last week but this week we’ve capitulated to a pathetic 220 against an attack which would struggle to get into most counties’ second eleven sides.

The lack of fight is very worrying. More worrying though is the bowling. For years and years it’s been the strength of the team. I’ve lost count of the amount of times the bowlers have pulled the batsmen out of the clarts. We effectively won a title off the back of it in 2013. This year though, the drop off has been monumental. I can’t understand it. It has to be a mindset thing. Or a tactical thing perhaps? I can’t for one minute believe that proven county bowlers have dropped so far off a cliff in such a fashion on talent and effort alone. Many have pointed to the ‘samey’ nature of the attack through 3 and a bit games, I don’t disagree with that, but that’s not all that’s going on here.

To win matches you need to take 20 wickets, so far this season, we’ve managed 15, 12 and 9. And already this week it looks increasingly like we won’t get the chance to take any more than 10 in this game.

So so poor, so so disappointing. Devastating even.

I just hope they can find their mojo quickly, because the one thing that will work in our favour is that everyone will beat everyone this season (except perhaps from Notts), so there’s still plenty of time to turn it around.
 

I mean on the attack you are just talking about Rushy really,

Potts has been excellent, Carse is injury

Raine is what he is, an all rounder option

raine isn't an all rounder option, he's one of our 4 man attack and after rushy the senior man so shoulders plenty of responsibility. you can't just say well carse is injured, potts good, rushy bad. we need 5-7 bowlers who can perform well to get through the season, not one or two
 
I mean on the attack you are just talking about Rushy really,

Potts has been excellent, Carse is injury

Raine is what he is, an all rounder option
Raine is far more than an all-rounder, he's our main old ball bowler who regularly took 4 and 5 wickets, especially in the second innings, last season. He's been absolutely rotten this season.
 
I mean on the attack you are just talking about Rushy really,

Potts has been excellent, Carse is injury

Raine is what he is, an all rounder option

Everyone bar Potts then.

Rushy, Raine and the fourth seamer have been non-existent in terms of a wicket taking threat.

Is Coughlin injured again? I actually thought he bowled ok at Cardiff. Looked to have a bit of nip to his bowling at the very least. I was excited to see Gibson given his go but he was totally ineffective unfortunately and probably now needs a run of second eleven games.
 
raine isn't an all rounder option, he's one of our 4 man attack and after rushy the senior man so shoulders plenty of responsibility. you can't just say well carse is injured, potts good, rushy bad. we need 5-7 bowlers who can perform well to get through the season, not one or two

he is like pretty much, he is 4th seamer.

I can say that, as I am talking about people who have played.
Raine is far more than an all-rounder, he's our main old ball bowler who regularly took 4 and 5 wickets, especially in the second innings, last season. He's been absolutely rotten this season.

he's still 4th seamer though aint he, Carse and Coughlin injuries have stuffed us, but we dont have back up

Raine outbowled Rushy 2nd innings against Notts
Everyone bar Potts then.

Rushy, Raine and the fourth seamer have been non-existent in terms of a wicket taking threat.

Is Coughlin injured again? I actually thought he bowled ok at Cardiff. Looked to have a bit of nip to his bowling at the very least. I was excited to see Gibson given his go but he was totally ineffective unfortunately and probably now needs a run of second eleven games.

I just mean I see Raine as a bonus behind 3 front line seamers

Rushy is the big issue like, he isnt taking any wickets with the new ball, thats huge for any team
 
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he is like pretty much, he is 4th seamer.

I can say that, as I am talking about people who have played.


he's still 4th seamer though aint he, Carse and Coughlin injuries have stuffed us, but we dont have back up

Raine outbowled Rushy 2nd innings against Notts


I just mean I see Raine as a bonus behind 3 front line seamers

Rushy is the big issue like, he isnt taking any wickets with the new ball, thats huge for any team

4th seamer isn't an all rounder. unless trevaskis suddenly turns into graeme swann (and no i don't mean a plastic mag twat)
Is Coughlin injured again? I actually thought he bowled ok at Cardiff. Looked to have a bit of nip to his bowling at the very least. I was excited to see Gibson given his go but he was totally ineffective unfortunately and probably now needs a run of second eleven games.

yes. been netting though, surprised he wasn't in the squad at least this time, but might need a seconds outing to get sharp again now, been out longer than expected.
 
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Is Coughlin injured again? I actually thought he bowled ok at Cardiff. Looked to have a bit of nip to his bowling at the very least. I was excited to see Gibson given his go but he was totally ineffective unfortunately and probably now needs a run of second eleven games.
I always get to the ground early and the day after he was injured in the pre match warm ups I was pleasantly surprised to see Coughlin out on the field with the other players and a couple of the early bird spectators were asking after him and he said he was fine. He was even helping out with 12th man duties and in the nets so I was fully expecting to see him in the side for the following week against Notts but apparantly not.
Raine is far more than an all-rounder, he's our main old ball bowler who regularly took 4 and 5 wickets, especially in the second innings, last season. He's been absolutely rotten this season.
He has- but far more more worrying is that in my opinion having seen the Uni game, the Yorkshire warm up and the two home CC games there's only Pottsy who has been better than him.
 
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Rushworth is not getting any younger but has been truly excellent. Raine is a product of current county cricket..2-45 off 18 overs. We need to do better.
 
4th seamer isn't an all rounder. unless trevaskis suddenly turns into graeme swann (and no i don't mean a plastic mag twat)


yes. been netting though, surprised he wasn't in the squad at least this time, but might need a seconds outing to get sharp again now, been out longer than expected.

Ben Raine is still our 4th seamer like mate
 
ben raine is an alll rounder like :confused:
Standard definition of an all-rounder is someone with a higher batting average than bowling average.

Raine averages 21.78 with the bat and 25.85 with the ball so doesn't meet that definition.

He's what I'd describe as 'a bowler who can bat a bit' or a 'bowling all-rounder' like Brez, Mitchell Starc or Broad before he forgot how to bat.
 
Standard definition of an all-rounder is someone with a higher batting average than bowling average.

Raine averages 21.78 with the bat and 25.85 with the ball so doesn't meet that definition.

He's what I'd describe as 'a bowler who can bat a bit' or a 'bowling all-rounder' like Brez, Mitchell Starc or Broad before he forgot how to bat.

Maybe, I think he did average more than that though with the bat and he has slid down

He's batted at 7 for Durham too.

Just the way I view him anyway personally.

I dont think he is a lad you can rely on to get wickets but he can back the front 3 up, IMO anyway.
 
Maybe, I think he did average more than that though with the bat and he has slid down

He's batted at 7 for Durham too.

Just the way I view him anyway personally.

I dont think he is a lad you can rely on to get wickets but he can back the front 3 up, IMO anyway.
Nah, he lacks pace. He's usually accurate though.
 
Nah, he lacks pace. He's usually accurate though.

I watched him first 2 home games, and he was fairly accurate just not threatening

only thing Id say is he usual comes on when we have took a few with the new ball, which wasnt the case this time.

Not massively defending the lad really just debating aint it

clearly issues with the bowling like for sure,

I honestly think we'd have won a couple of games if Carse had been fit though
 
I watched him first 2 home games, and he was fairly accurate just not threatening

only thing Id say is he usual comes on when we have took a few with the new ball, which wasnt the case this time.

Not massively defending the lad really just debating aint it

clearly issues with the bowling like for sure,

I honestly think we'd have won a couple of games if Carse had been fit though

The lack of pace has definitely been costly. Carse and Wood were fairly destructive this time last season.

I liked the look of Coughlin in spells against Glamorgan. I thought we could use him as a fast bowler in short bursts, but the lad is a walking injury, you can't depend on him.

Potts has found another yard of pace and is carrying the rest of them atm.

The flat, dry wickets last season should have been a warning sign we couldn't rely on RMF nibblers. It's criminal we came into the season with a team dependent on them.

Which poster was it said "we've got a left arm spinner, what more do you want?" 🤣
 
The lack of pace has definitely been costly. Carse and Wood were fairly destructive this time last season.

I liked the look of Coughlin in spells against Glamorgan. I thought we could use him as a fast bowler in short bursts, but the lad is a walking injury, you can't depend on him.

Potts has found another yard of pace and is carrying the rest of them atm.

The flat, dry wickets last season should have been a warning sign we couldn't rely on RMF nibblers. It's criminal we came into the season with a team dependent on them.

Which poster was it said "we've got a left arm spinner, what more do you want?" 🤣

aye hard to disagree with that.
 
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