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Put a flat earthier into space


Nukehasslefan said:
Why do you use thousands of years of science?
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Because I'm not an idiot?
Nukehasslefan said:
What argument do you gain by using this?
Eratosthenes and so on?
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Is he the only example you have or something?
Nukehasslefan said:
Why the need to use that when today's technology should be able to clearly trump any of that and offer absolute proof...but it never does.
There's a very good reason for that.
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Are you suggesting that we need to relearn everything over again as if it hadn't been done before? Why ignore all the knowledge already discovered, tested and proved? Because it proves you wrong yes?
Nukehasslefan said:
No, I don't put any ridiculous conditions on anyone.
You argue your point and shut me down.
Failure to do so but offering words and harking back to ancient history make your argument weak and you know this.
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So you don't constantly ask for self observed proof rather than accept the established science?
You have not been "shut down" you have simply made a stupid claim and rather than offer supporting evidence for it you expect others to prove their side without reference to the masses of scientific proof available.
Nukehasslefan said:
If I was armed with what you and others are armed with I would expect to put this global carry-on to bed but here we are still arguing about it.
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Oh I thought you said you'd been shut down?
If you were armed with all that knowledge and arguing against a simpleton who had fallen for the worst hoax on YouTube you'd find yourself in the same situation.

Nukehasslefan said:
Nobody has any proof of a spinning globe but they are armed to the teeth with stories of how it's supposed to work.
It's great for the fiction books and tells and sells a great story but it doesn't tell or sell a factual one unless you can offer something or someone else can because as it stands nothing has been offered as factual.
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It has and you know it. You're either too stupid to understand it or too stubborn to accept it.
Nukehasslefan said:
There's absolutely no flawed experiment. Anyone can do it and it does not require me to argue for it. It comes down to whether a person wants to accept they live upon a spinning ball with oceans just staying put, or actually sitting back on their own and thinking "hmmm, I think we've been sold a massive curve ball"(pun intended).
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Your so called "water level experiment" is most definitely flawed if you think it proves flatness. Measured properly it shows the curve. You know this.
Nukehasslefan said:
There's no distraction or diversion. The beauty of all of this is very simple in its setup. Any person who takes the time to set aside the global story can very quickly come to a conclusion, at the very least, that we do not live upon one.
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99% of your posts are nothing but distraction or diversion.
Nukehasslefan said:
The evidence is there. What you choose to take from it is not my issue.
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I couldn't care less about your issues, but as you say, the evidence is there and if you have the capacity to understand it, it tells you we live on a globe.
Nukehasslefan said:
It isn't verified and correct, at all. You know this.
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It is but you apparently don't.
Nukehasslefan said:
In your mind, it may easily be disproved. But then again believing in a spinning globe in a space vacuum is obviously going to offer you that train of thought and I accept that.
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See what I mean about diversion? If you were at all interested in learning or seeking the truth you might ask "in what way is my f***ing ridiculous claim proved wrong?" but instead you just state that the proof is only in my mind and repeat your equally stupid claim that it would be stupid to believe the established science
Nukehasslefan said:
The difference between me and you is, I don't offer mine as proof. I offer it as a musing because to provide proof I'd literally have to gain access to some of what I put forward, so on that note people should always take it as nothing more than my musing or the musing of a nut job or whatever. It matters not.
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And yet again, the "I dont offer mine as proof" bollocks. We know. You dont because you cant, you cant because it's simply impossible but you do make the claim that Earth is not a globe and state that as a 100% certainty, which is why people argue.
Nukehasslefan said:
However, on the other hand, you offer your globe as factual and you absolutely cannot offer any proof to back that up.
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Except for the proof offered
Nukehasslefan said:
No. I don't ignore anything worthwhile. I just choose to answer some of the many offerings. It's one against the many. Surely you can accept that.
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I could if it were true. You ignored or intentionally misunderstood the mirror ball post because it offers a proof you cannot deny.
Nukehasslefan said:
I have observed all kinds of stuff and none of it offers me a global perspective, at all.
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You cannot observe an eclipse and still claim the moon is a reflection of the Sun.
You cannot understand solstices and equinoxes yet still claim Sun and Moon are projections.
Well.... you could, but it would only make you look stupid.
Nukehasslefan said:
Still nothing.

Still trying to argue for something thousands of years ago.
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No, not something from two thousand years ago. Something known for at least that long, studied, observed and further understood ever since and never once proved to be wrong in all that time.


But you know this.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Why the need to use that when today's technology should be able to clearly trump any of that and offer absolute proof...but it never does.
There's a very good reason for that.
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I'm talking about the entire sum of all knowledge of the past two thousand years, not just one example from two thousand years ago.

I did post a clip of how water behaves in space and your considered reply was "you post that and I smile" There is no modern technology that you'd accept.

There's a very good reason for that.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
No, I'm asking for proof that it happens how you think it happens. Can you?
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I think it happens because the height in the sky of the so called sun that is being projected onto the dome by the central projector slowly changes over the course of a year. Sounds simple, but I can’t provide proof.
Can you?
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
I'm talking about the entire sum of all knowledge of the past two thousand years, not just one example from two thousand years ago.
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Do you agree that we could be told a lot of untruths about 2000 years ago?
The Snockerty Friddle said:
I did post a clip of how water behaves in space and your considered reply was "you post that and I smile" There is no modern technology that you'd accept.
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Water in space?
nahwee said:
I think it happens because the height in the sky of the so called sun that is being projected onto the dome by the central projector slowly changes over the course of a year. Sounds simple, but I can’t provide proof.
Can you?
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Nope.
 
Pancho said:
Professor Dave summed it up very well when he said that all flat earthers that he'd encountered were delusional narcissists.
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Seen a post on FB about a picture they took ontop of an old rocket with a camera and had the film secured in steel case.

The comment section.. wow!
He's not alone out there Nukey loads of them
 
Pancho said:
Professor Dave summed it up very well when he said that all flat earthers that he'd encountered were delusional narcissists.
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It's odd how anyone can think that all fields of expertise are just made up lies. I mean what's the point in anyone learning anything at this point when it's all just made-up bullshit. What's the point in even studying when you can just invent your own rules and start performing brain surgery on people.
 
BigPete said:
Seen a post on FB about a picture they took ontop of an old rocket with a camera and had the film secured in steel case.

The comment section.. wow!
He's not alone out there Nukey loads of them
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Have you ever seen a rocket lift off?

Thrust to mass ratio. The Rockets have to lift off under full thrust for a reason.
Take a look at large-model rockets and even missiles.
And then go and look at the Hollywood versions and notice the slow-motion TV lift-off.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Absolutely and it comes down to each deciding what may or may not be truthful.
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No it doesn't. Not when they can look at evidence, repeat the experiments and see the results for themselves, there is no need for just deciding whether to believe or not.
Nukehasslefan said:
Science is realism. Space is not.
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What proof can you offer up in terms of what you're pretending to believe or not as the case may be or otherwise and whatnot?
See? I could be a flat earther too.
 
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