Put a flat earthier into space

[DaveH]

Of course, because then the Earth would have a curve, which would mean water could curve, and that is a problem for them.

It depends. It is fine on lemon squeezer earth with a gradual gradient to the centre, but water level nails it so it isn’t.

We will find out tomorrow. Hopefully with a working map.

 

[payne]

It depends. It is fine on lemon squeezer earth with a gradual gradient to the centre, but water level nails it so it isn’t.

We will find out tomorrow. Hopefully with a working map.

7am sessions because it's the weekend. Painting needs done earlier during the week and more early thread comments debunking all of human's collective knowledge is the order of the day from the prophet.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I’m not crying about insults, merely observing that conspiracy theorists all seem to have the same playbook.

You mention it often enough.

When stuck, the “you are a sheep, you have no clue” is a common one.

I've never once offered that so who are you actually referring to?

Which distances don’t work on a globe? You tell me the actual distance between any landmass or city that is not scaled correctly on a standard globe and I’ll check it against a globe here and see. I.e., you claim distances don’t work. Prove it.

This is another that's going nowhere and is a teet for tat.
You need to prove what you're saying. I've already told you I can't map the Earth on my own, so what do I rely on?

You asked me for a globe, they are sold everywhere. Do you want a link for where to buy one or I could take a photo?

What does a globe offer you?
Use any globe and tell me how you work out distances on it.
You can fly or drive or sail.

I can’t tell you how you can produce a legitimate map for your fantasy world, because it doesn’t exist and doesn’t work.

Forget about my alternate Earth. I can't physically map it and you know it, even if it was cloer to reality than the globe you go with.
You are in thes ame boat. You cannot map your globe you believe exists.

Why do you expect me to be able to tell you how to do something you made up?

I don;t expect you to do anything.

The best bet is to forget all about it, have a nice cup of tea and accept reality.

Accepting reality is simple. I accept I'm here and I accept I walk about, sail and fly on and over Earth.
The reality from that point does not exist and becomes acceptance of being told what it is we walk upon, sail upon and fly over.
You choose the global spin story with all the trimmings.
I choose an alternative.

You claimed you can produce a 2d map where the distances all work. If you still think you can, then go on. If you have decided it is impossible, just admit it and we can move on.

Just flatten the globe back to the original set up before it was turned into a globe. You just need to upturn the dges and leave a mound towards the middle. Place a dome over that and there you go.

Unrelated thing of interest for other people is this project

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Someone built a satellite tracker out of cheap hardware, further validating there are things up there, moving, we can see them and track their radio signals. You don’t need the special hardware belonging to “authority”.

Nobody's arguing about things being in the sky. I've said it time and time again.
But they're not in space. That's the issue.

I dunno what his red and green lines are meant to be to him, and I'm not sure if he realises it, but they demonstrate how you would or wouldn't see the ship due to the horizon.
The black lines? Not a clue either

Your globe cannot offer you any horizon.
The diagram, regardless of it not being to any scale of what you believe of a globe is to show you that standing level as you believe against a level standing opposite would offer angled view towards each other over even a short distance which rises over a longer distance.

Why?
Simple. Each person would be tilted away from the other no matter where you were on your globe.
Obviously, we never see this for a very good reason. It's because Earth is not a globe we live upon.

 

[Pancho]

You mention it often enough.


I've never once offered that so who are you actually referring to?


This is another that's going nowhere and is a teet for tat.
You need to prove what you're saying. I've already told you I can't map the Earth on my own, so what do I rely on?

What does a globe offer you?
Use any globe and tell me how you work out distances on it.
You can fly or drive or sail.


Forget about my alternate Earth. I can't physically map it and you know it, even if it was cloer to reality than the globe you go with.
You are in thes ame boat. You cannot map your globe you believe exists.

I don;t expect you to do anything.

Accepting reality is simple. I accept I'm here and I accept I walk about, sail and fly on and over Earth.
The reality from that point does not exist and becomes acceptance of being told what it is we walk upon, sail upon and fly over.
You choose the global spin story with all the trimmings.
I choose an alternative.

Just flatten the globe back to the original set up before it was turned into a globe. You just need to upturn the dges and leave a mound towards the middle. Place a dome over that and there you go.

Nobody's arguing about things being in the sky. I've said it time and time again.
But they're not in space. That's the issue.

Your globe cannot offer you any horizon.
The diagram, regardless of it not being to any scale of what you believe of a globe is to show you that standing level as you believe against a level standing opposite would offer angled view towards each other over even a short distance which rises over a longer distance.

Why?
Simple. Each person would be tilted away from the other no matter where you were on your globe.
Obviously, we never see this for a very good reason. It's because Earth is not a globe we live upon.

Unhinged word salad bollocks from first word to last.

Your horizon diagram would shame a 5 year old.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

Tyson said something once about the curve of earth being so vast that you wouldn't be able to see it until you reached a certain height. It's a video clip in which he's holding an inflatable globe.
Nuke then said something like "there's your global god telling you that you can't see the curve".
Iirc, i asked him if he agreed with anything else Tyson says... surprisingly Tyson is wrong about everything else but correct about being unable to see a curve.

I'm using NDT as an argument against those who argue for a supposed Earth curve at plane height.
Someone is wrong....but who?

 

[peachy]

Someone is wrong....but who?

Um

 

[Nukehasslefan]

But you said our flat maps and your lemon squeezer was quite representative of what you think.

And I stand by it.

So how can they be appx in those positions yet only be 8000 miles apart on your 50000 miles wide lemon squeezer

Look back to what I said about 50,000 miles in diameter.

 

[DPTT]

And I stand by it.

Look back to what I said about 50,000 miles in diameter.

So are you saying your earth is over 6 times the diameter of our earth globe

 

[Pink Panther]

Someone is wrong....but who?

Probably the one who has a similar posting style to the Taybarns reviewer.

 

[legend7]

And I stand by it.

Look back to what I said about 50,000 miles in diameter.

I've looked back and I don't understand.
The land masses are similar to our maps and the lemon squeezer map, that is 50k miles across, Australia and South america are at 12 and 8 on a clock face yet only 8000 miles apart?
How does that work

 

[The Snockerty Friddle]

Your globe cannot offer you any horizon.

Except for the actual horizon offered by the very fact of it being a globe.

The diagram, regardless of it not being to any scale of what you believe of a globe is to show you that standing level as you believe against a level standing opposite would offer angled view towards each other over even a short distance which rises over a longer distance.

An angle which if measured would be so small that no-one would care unless they had to connect the two with pinpoint accuracy

Why?
Simple. Each person would be tilted away from the other no matter where you were on your globe.
Obviously, we never see this for a very good reason. It's because Earth is not a globe we live upon.

No-one disputes the angles between verticals stood on a globe. They are a result of being stood on a globe. The only problem here is that you are still insisting on pinpoint crosshair vision which we do not have, and your comical inability to understand the minute scale of those angles.

Once more for the hard of thinking, two verticals would need to be something like 50 - 70 miles apart before the angle was so much as one degree.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I suggested hundreds of pages ago going down to the beach with a pair of binoculars and watching ships disappear over the horizon.
Something so easy to do. One of the north sea ferries going to Norway or Amsterdam that run regularly.
If he was interested at all in checking for facts and disproving the global narrative you start with standing at the beach and using binoculars.
It's that cultist behaviour though that means he won't even allow the slightest challenge to his belief. Why take the risk of finding something out?

You can go anywhere and see many things disappear but they are not going down any curvature. They simply get faded out by the atmosphere cutting out the light from the bottom up which is why you lose your ships bottom up.

Unhinged word salad bollocks from first word to last.

Your horizon diagram would shame a 5 year old.

It isn't any horizon diagram.

 

[legend7]

You can go anywhere and see many things disappear but they are not going down any curvature. They simply get faded out by the atmosphere cutting out the light from the bottom up which is why you lose your ships bottom up.

You never did explain why something at a distance but visible wouldn't come out clearer on a photo if taken from higher up with it having less dense atmosphere to go through?

 

[fyl2u]

This is another that's going nowhere and is a teet for tat.

Tit.

 

[Nukehasslefan]

So are you saying your earth is over 6 times the diameter of our earth globe

Potentially, yes.

 

[Pancho]

You can go anywhere and see many things disappear but they are not going down any curvature. They simply get faded out by the atmosphere cutting out the light from the bottom up which is why you lose your ships bottom up.

It isn't any horizon diagram.

More word salad bollocks.

You're just part of a cult and a particularly stupid cult at that.

You've fallen for 'the dumbest hoax on the internet'.

 

[fyl2u]

The reality from that point does not exist and becomes acceptance of being told what it is we walk upon, sail upon and fly over.
You choose the global spin story with all the trimmings.

So, you're saying he's a brainwashed sheep who's too stupid to think for himself.

When stuck, the “you are a sheep, you have no clue” is a common one.

Oh it can't be that...

I've never once offered that so who are you actually referring to?

 

[Nukehasslefan]

I've looked back and I don't understand.
The land masses are similar to our maps and the lemon squeezer map, that is 50k miles across, Australia and South america are at 12 and 8 on a clock face yet only 8000 miles apart?
How does that work

Read back to what I said if you've looked back.

 

[legend7]

Read back to what I said if you've looked back.

I have, can you explain how the distances work with the positioning of these 2 land masses on your 50k wide disc?

 

[fyl2u]

Your globe cannot offer you any horizon.

Eh? Why not?

What would a globe offer instead of a horizon?

The diagram, regardless of it not being to any scale of what you believe of a globe is to show you that standing level as you believe against a level standing opposite would offer angled view towards each other over even a short distance which rises over a longer distance.

Well that's just plain wrong.

Why?
Simple. Each person would be tilted away from the other no matter where you were on your globe.

People are capable of looking downwards, you know? Or have you never seen your feet?

Using your same logic, horizons can't exist on a flat earth either, because whichever way you face, all you would see is the sky.

Obviously, we never see this for a very good reason. It's because Earth is not a globe we live upon.

I think you don't see it because you're strapped face-up to a bed in a mental hospital.

I'm using NDT as an argument against those who argue for a supposed Earth curve at plane height.
Someone is wrong....but who?

You. Always you.