You've done many experiments to verify lots of things.
Have you created superfluid though?
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You've done many experiments to verify lots of things.
Have you created superfluid though?
taipeisafc
Striker
I think you know the answer to that - he has literally no clue about anything (including superfluidity which he doesn't have a clue about but has just looked up on wikipedia and got completely wrong). Heat (energy) flows from Hot objects to cold objects (in fact from high energy to low energy in all states) - if you had an ice dome at close to absolute zero it would need a massive amount of cooling to maintain it as a solid as it would have massive flows of heat to it from the contents of the dome.
Nukehasslefan
Winger
We'll leave it at that.
taipeisafc
Striker
No you haven't you are a moron and lying as usual.
DaveH
Striker
I thought you said it was constantly melting and freezing. That would surely change the properties and shape of the dome which would cause a distorted reflection?
Come to think of it, we know liquids will run downwards, so if this hydrogen/helium ice turned to liquids and then refroze, it would build up below the path of the sun, which follows the same paths year after year. Over the age of the earth it would be cutting a channel, with a ridge below.
I can't see how a super-smooth ice dome could sustain itself without any level of distortion. Those distortions would be the biggest clue we have that it is real and not some made up fantasy with no evidence.
Well that heat cools down through the atmosphere, same as how the reflection gains 300°c through the same atmosphere
DaveH
Striker
Could you give us details of what these experiments are? Has it involved hydrogen/helium ice?
Nukehasslefan
Winger
No.
DaveH
Striker
Think of it like a bank. You put your money in there at one point and draw it out later, you don't carry it around all the time. The heat from the inner core heats the atmosphere on the way up on the path from projection central and the heat is stored there. It then drifts over the earth and when the light comes back down it picks up this stored heat on the way back down. Much like you picking up cash from a bank later.
As the stored atmospheric heat drifts over the earth, it builds up in a ring known as the equator and makes it even hotter there, but then disappates again as it gets closer to the southern polar ice wall gradient ring of freezing doom. Like when you put your hand over a hot pan, it is always hotter in a ring about 3 feet away from the pan than anywhere else. Same effect, this is a simple experiment anyone can do while boiling some eggs. Eggs are good for you. Try it yourself, I can help if you want.
Why not? I've been honest about what observations, simulations and mathematics I've done. If you have been able to do a simple experiment at home that disproves accepted physics then I'd like to do the same. I don't want to be this stupid forever. Help me Nukehasslefan, your my only hope.
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taipeisafc
Striker
Either because you haven't actually done any experiments and are lying or you know it will give you a nobel prize and are keeping it confidential - I am guessing the first option. Clown
Nukehasslefan
Winger
The above post and many others like it is a fair reason, don't you think?
No need to ask again.
Have you made your own superfluid?
taipeisafc
Striker
The above post and many others like it is a fair reason, don't you think?
No need to ask again.
So you are lying then - frankly you deserve all you get on this thread with your repeated arrogance and dismissal of anything at all from any other posters. I even had a few posts deleted for abusive language (must be low bar) which has never happened to me before.
nahwee
Winger
There’s a surprise.
DaveH
Striker
I think phrases like "I've done my own experiments" then refuse to say what they are, can be perceived by others as being untruthful. It hints to a complete absence of any experiments. It is fair enough to doubt the results and validity of experiments made over thousands of years of scientific development. But when they are replaced by "secret" experiments it doesn't add much balance.The above post and many others like it is a fair reason, don't you think?
No need to ask again.
It is along similar lines of "well I think I have a greater information source", which is a standard line from a conspiracy theorist play book. A lad in my team is like a work conspiracy theorist, and follows the same patterns as flat earth, twin towers attacks and other discussions I've seen. He comes out will all sorts of stuff that is apparently going on and going to happen at work, and each time challenged "well I have my information sources, but I can't tell you what they are".
One day he was claiming something, getting the rest of the team wound up and I had to say that is the opposite of what is happening. Sure enough "Well, I think I have a better source of information than you on this one". "Erm no. The decision on this was made half an hour ago between me, the director and other senior managers. I was the one who put forward this solution". The response, a knowing smile and a nod, "as long as you feel like you have been involved, that is the main thing but I know for certain that is not what is going to happen.". Sure enough what I said happened and what he claimed didn't. But he was convinced he knew better. Could not reveal his information or sources of course.
When it comes to conspiracy theorists, I think that is a natural form of defence. You doubt some of the maths I use as bowing to authority, fair enough. But, I maintain things like the circumference of a circle is 2πr. I have something out there to be attacked along with all the other maths and physics posted on this forum. But what I find with conspiracy theorists is they never have the details, never the experiments, only ever vague hints. Nobody is going to come out and say the circumference is 14cos(squirrel), because it can be disproven. Or in other words, nothing there to be attacked. It is a safe defence. I think it is what keeps their discussion going. Something with details can be shot down, a vague hint can't, so their theory continues. There is also the attention grabbing bit "Oh please tell me more of your wisdom?", which both gives attention and elevates their status in their minds as a sage holding secret wisdom, rather than what they actually are.
The discussion here today is a great example. "I have experiments to prove what I'm saying", "Can you tell us more", "No"...oh, well that is the end of that discussion isn't it? I think it is the same reason you will not provide the shape of your earth. We can demonstrate the globe works, but can't prove or disprove yours, because there is nothing there to attack or disprove. It is the invisible rhino in the corner that only you know is there.
taipeisafc
Striker
If it is a superfluid it could run upward as it would be essentially frictionless, superfluid Helium will crawl up the walls of containers it is in. What he neglects to mention is that Helium and Hydrogen have different freezing points (Hydrogen boils and -253 deg C and freezes at -259 deg C whereas Helium boils at -269 deg C and can only be frozen at -272 deg C if you increase the pressure to 20 times atmospheric i.e the same pressure as 200m down in the sea) hence a "Helium / Hydrogen" Ice dome would be physically impossible. The transition of Helium to a superfluid occurs at -271 deg C for Helium 4 and essential -273 deg C for Helium 3 (it is actually about 3 mK). Hydrogen does (they think) form a superfluid but not easily :-
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fyl2u
Striker
This is way beyond misunderstanding, this is deliberate trolling.
Elements exist, because the acquired knowledge of science says the elements exist.
Superfluids, gases, liquids, solids, temperatures, pressures, they all exist because the acquired knowledge of science says they exist.
Planets, stars, galaxies, gravity, trigonometry, in fact all of mathematics, no, they don't exist because they're just stories that the sheeple believe...
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
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What is hydrogen? What is helium?
I don't believe they exist. I've never seen them. Are we supposed to believe that these so-called "gases" that are invisible supposedly exist? I'm not going to believe these arguments from authority.
What is pressure? Are we supposed to believe that this magical invisible so-called "force" actually exists? Sounds like an argument from authority to me.
What's a superfluid? I've never seen one. I've heard so-called "scientists" talking about them but I've never seen one. Are we supposed to just believe they exist and act in the way Nukehasslefan says they act? Sounds like an argument from authority to me.
Elements exist, because the acquired knowledge of science says the elements exist.
Superfluids, gases, liquids, solids, temperatures, pressures, they all exist because the acquired knowledge of science says they exist.
Planets, stars, galaxies, gravity, trigonometry, in fact all of mathematics, no, they don't exist because they're just stories that the sheeple believe...
Riiiiiiiiiiight.
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What is hydrogen? What is helium?
I don't believe they exist. I've never seen them. Are we supposed to believe that these so-called "gases" that are invisible supposedly exist? I'm not going to believe these arguments from authority.
What is pressure? Are we supposed to believe that this magical invisible so-called "force" actually exists? Sounds like an argument from authority to me.
What's a superfluid? I've never seen one. I've heard so-called "scientists" talking about them but I've never seen one. Are we supposed to just believe they exist and act in the way Nukehasslefan says they act? Sounds like an argument from authority to me.
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Give us proof please, I think its only fair that you provide proof of what you are saying as thats what you keep on asking of us (and has been provided to you on numerous occasions)
