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Put a flat earthier into space

Nukehasslefan said:
If you tell me you can jump 2 feet or more from the floor and I ask you to prove it but you refuse, then you offered me a story and you expect or hope I accept it based on what you say.

If however you do it and it measures two feet or more then I'll accept that as your proof.
Simple enough.
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Ok, so follow the instructions I gave you more than once, and you'll see your proof.
Simple enough.
 

chelt_mackem said:
I've been wondering this. At what point does a body of evidence all pointing towards the same conclusion constitute proof? It's actually a reasonable argument that none of the pieces of scientific evidence put forward conclusively prove the Earth to be a globe on their own, but when each additional piece of scientific evidence also points us that way, while simultaneously not debunking the claim of another piece of evidence, that's as close as we can get to conclusive proof.

The flat/cell Earth however, has not even one piece of evidence, let alone anything close to proof.
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But they are all liars and in on the conspiracy. Or there are people above normal scientists who get conscripted into the misinformation sector who invent laws that are fake but all work and put them in books for all others to follow. These people have been around for thousands of years and have developed fake science and propagated it to the masses who use it in everyday life. Again, it all works but is actually fake.

The really weird thing is the fake people can't get to projection central because it's too cold but for some reason decided to protect this non accessible area for no apparent reason. They also at some point found out there was a dome like snow globe over our heads but that can't be detected. Fuck nars how they knew it was there. Then they found out the world was flat but decided to tell everyone it's a mitre delta size 5 for reasons. Proper smart stone age people came up will all this stuff and was able to fake every aspect of science and mathematics just so people thousands of years later could invent modern technology they had no idea about.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Why not keep it going and just ban me from it?

How you want to think.

No.

But surely if I'm banned you lot can still debate. After all, it is me that seems to be the issue, right?

Just ignore me.

If everyone likes the thread and I'm the problem to it then the sensible thing would be to ban me from it and carry on debating among yourselves, surely.

Sorry but I'm staying out of answering. I'll leave it up to you and others to get on and debate.

You try answering as many as is hit at me regularly and see how you manage it.

No, I didn't say I'd done superfluid experiments. I said I'd done experiments and you married it up to me saying I'd done superfluid experiments.
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I have just seen a dummy and a set of toys fly past my window, travelling at the speed of right angles.
 
payne said:
But they are all liars and in on the conspiracy. Or there are people above normal scientists who get conscripted into the misinformation sector who invent laws that are fake but all work and put them in books for all others to follow. These people have been around for thousands of years and have developed fake science and propagated it to the masses who use it in everyday life. Again, it all works but is actually fake.

The really weird thing is the fake people can't get to projection central because it's too cold but for some reason decided to protect this non accessible area for no apparent reason. They also at some point found out there was a dome like snow globe over our heads but that can't be detected. Fuck nars how they knew it was there. Then they found out the world was flat but decided to tell everyone it's a mitre delta size 5 for reasons. Proper smart stone age people came up will all this stuff and was able to fake every aspect of science and mathematics just so people thousands of years later could invent modern technology they had no idea about.
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That sounds like a much more likely explanation now you put it like that.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
Your fact and you're welcome to it. Not mine.
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Every piece of technology you have ever used, including the kit and technology that you are using to communicate with us on here today, has been developed as a result of mainstream science. That's a fact.

The self same mainstream science that embraces maths, physics, chemistry and recognises gravity, conservation of momentum and all the other 'quirks' that are clearly beyond your limited intellect.

So I repeat, you debunk yourself each and every time you post on here.

And I'll preempt your usual gormless response - no, you don't get to accept only the aspects of science or tech that suit your irrational world view.

You don't get to pick and choose. That's not how science works.

(As always, peer review welcome)
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Instructions for what?
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Seeing proof.

Did you ever read the post explaining the equatorial sun-dial?
Checked out any shadows?

Did you ever come back with an attempt at explaining how those things could be accounted for other than by being on a spinning g;lobe with a tilted axis in orbit around the Sun?
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Ok, so follow the instructions I gave you more than once, and you'll see your proof.
Simple enough.
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I told you how to see all the proof you need. You ignored it.
Was it not quite simple enough?
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Seeing proof.

Did you ever read the post explaining the equatorial sun-dial?
Checked out any shadows?

Did you ever come back with an attempt at explaining how those things could be accounted for other than by being on a spinning g;lobe with a tilted axis in orbit around the Sun?

I told you how to see all the proof you need. You ignored it.
Was it not quite simple enough?
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Does your equatorial sundial explain a spinning globe?
 
Pancho said:
Every piece of technology you have ever used, including the kit and technology that you are using to communicate with us on here today, has been developed as a result of mainstream science. That's a fact.
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Aye and I don't argue against that.
Pancho said:
The self same mainstream science that embraces maths, physics, chemistry
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Maths, physics, and chemistry are all fine in the reality of their use. But not so fine when fictitiously used as factual.
Pancho said:
and recognises gravity, conservation of momentum and all the other 'quirks' that are clearly beyond your limited intellect.
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And beyond yours, because CofM cannot be anything because it cannot actually work for reasons I offered. And gravity cannot even be explained as a force.
Pancho said:
So I repeat, you debunk yourself each and every time you post on here.
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Not at all but you have an opinion and I'm fine with it, I just don't agree with it.
Pancho said:
And I'll preempt your usual gormless response - no, you don't get to accept only the aspects of science or tech that suit your irrational world view.
You don't get to pick and choose. That's not how science works.

(As always, peer review welcome)
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Real science I can accept but then again the argument is whether what we're told about Earth and whatnot is real science or pseudo-science.
The Snockerty Friddle said:
It shows we are on one.

But I'd love to see your attempt at an alternative explanation.
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How does it show we are on a spinning globe?
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Aye and I don't argue against that.

Maths, physics, and chemistry are all fine in the reality of their use. But not so fine when fictitiously used as factual.

And beyond yours, because CofM cannot be anything because it cannot actually work for reasons I offered. And gravity cannot even be explained as a force.

Not at all but you have an opinion and I'm fine with it, I just don't agree with it.

Real science I can accept but then again the argument is whether what we're told about Earth and whatnot is real science or pseudo-science.


How does it show we are on a spinning globe?
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QEFD
 
The Snockerty Friddle said:
Yes.
I did so in #14593
Along with a simple experiment with a stick you should try.

Are you going to look at it or demand I repost again?
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Ok, I looked at it. You offer an Earth spin against a space sun. I offer the opposite to it as a moving sun around a stationary Earth, angled from the dome, so there's no difference. You do not prove any spinning globe.
 
DaveH said:
Fixating on the 1000 mph is an odd one too. I remember earlier in the thread working it out and I think it was 474 mph or something like that for us. The fact that when a disc or a ball spins, the middle bit travels slower than the outer bit is a really strange thing to get your head around. It is also why applying linear speed to angular velocity is pointless.
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if you think about it, if you are stood at the very north pole where its spinning on its axis, you'll just rotate very slowly 360 degrees over 1 full day. what speed is that?
 
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