Put a flat earthier into space


No, because even car manufacturers are in on it.
You absolutely couldn't just look at how many miles on the clock when you are in Perth then drive to Sydney and see what the display on the car now says.
The odometers are part of the cover up.

They work fine if you're just popping out to Tesco, but once you drive California to New England they start making stuff up to trick you.
Does it mean you're driving over a globe?
 
How do you know this?
It seems you have to be offered a tracker rather than actually seeing this supposed ISS.
One time it was impossible to catch due to this 16-times-a-day apparent orbit around a supposed globe or 18,000 mph and we think we can comprehend that because it's been whacked into our heads to become an accepted speed and also a widespread "yep I've seen it and this is what it looks like" mindset.
The ISS is one of the most watched satellites. It is big and bright in the sky and yes I have seen it. Both as a dot and telescopically. It is the shape they report it is. Lots of people spot it and track it (including by radio signals) and there has not been one single instance of a report of it being MIA. Nobody has ever said it did not turn up. Nobody has ever seen it land, or climbing back to where it should be. Like clockwork it goes round and round, moving fairly quickly between light and dark.

Do you have any evidence if it ever coming in for land or not being where it is supposed to be?
The aerodynamics are all wrong because the ISS is an effigy offered to us.
An effigy, is that the best you can do. Something bright in the sky we can see and photograph is an effigy. Pushing physics and explanations to the limit on that one.
No, I'm saying they're not external global distances.
So now reported distances between cities are wrong? This whole coverup goes deeper and deeper. If I drove from Paris to Barcelona, my car would clock the accepted distance reported by maps and the many thousands who have done that trip before. Why? What are the distances between cities? What is the distance between Paris and Barcelona? What are the distances between Paris and Budapest, Beijing, Delhi? And a bigger one, what is the distance between Sydney and Rio?
 
Answering a perfectly reasonable question with another question is classic distraction technique employed by every single ten-a-penny flerfer.
Can you? Have you? Are some of his favorite responses. Completely avoids the question because his arguments fall flat on their arses.

As individuals, we can't go to the moon, we can't fly in space, we can't take a good close up look at Jupiter and even experiments with gravity are very very difficult because we sit on top of a massive gravitational mass. What we can do with ease is measure distances over land and it looks like he is struggling for an explanation on this one. You just can't have the accepted distances between locations and lay it out on a 2D map. We all know this, which is why he is desperately floundering.

Not said in so many words, but we are getting a hint of the "oh it is your global mindset" coming out. No. No matter what mindset you have, distances are distances and we can verify them. They can be considered as 100% factual.
 
The ISS is one of the most watched satellites. It is big and bright in the sky and yes I have seen it. Both as a dot and telescopically.
Do you have a picture of it from what you took?
It is the shape they report it is. Lots of people spot it and track it (including by radio signals) and there has not been one single instance of a report of it being MIA. Nobody has ever said it did not turn up. Nobody has ever seen it land, or climbing back to where it should be. Like clockwork it goes round and round, moving fairly quickly between light and dark.
As an effigy did you have to be offered a tracker?
Do you have any evidence if it ever coming in for land or not being where it is supposed to be?
Absolutely none but then neither have you. I'm basing it not being what we are told simply by the impossibility of it working in a space vacuum and all the rest of the utter gunk of it, in my opinion.

An effigy, is that the best you can do.
It's all I need to offer from my side.
Something bright in the sky we can see and photograph is an effigy.
It is if it's not the reality we are told it is.
Pushing physics and explanations to the limit on that one.
No need to push physics on this, just understanding the nonsense of what's pushed out as physics.
So now reported distances between cities are wrong?
I don't recall saying that.
This whole coverup goes deeper and deeper.
Of course. It would have to carry this off.
If I drove from Paris to Barcelona, my car would clock the accepted distance reported by maps and the many thousands who have done that trip before. Why? What are the distances between cities? What is the distance between Paris and Barcelona? What are the distances between Paris and Budapest, Beijing, Delhi? And a bigger one, what is the distance between Sydney and Rio?
I have no issue with your mileometer. This is not what we're arguing.
The argument is in proving a globe.
Answering a perfectly reasonable question with another question is classic distraction technique employed by every single ten-a-penny flerfer.
I'm waiting for the inevitable.
 
Do you have a picture of it from what you took?

As an effigy did you have to be offered a tracker?

Absolutely none but then neither have you. I'm basing it not being what we are told simply by the impossibility of it working in a space vacuum and all the rest of the utter gunk of it, in my opinion.


It's all I need to offer from my side.

It is if it's not the reality we are told it is.

No need to push physics on this, just understanding the nonsense of what's pushed out as physics.

I don't recall saying that.

Of course. It would have to carry this off.

I have no issue with your mileometer. This is not what we're arguing.
The argument is in proving a globe.

I'm waiting for the inevitable.
You’re desperate to either get a warning or a ban aren’t you 🤷‍♂️😂

The calculations used to determine distance are based on a globe model and they match reality. Am sure DaveH could explain far better than me.
 
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Do you have a picture of it from what you took?
No, I've not been able to take an image of it. It is on a list of things I want to be able to do. It moves fast so it is really difficult.
As an effigy did you have to be offered a tracker?
There are various trackers that can calculate where it is and where it should be. This is based on equations of orbits so it is calculated rather than real time. Using a tracker is easier than calculating yourself but it is possible. I don't see what the issue is with needing a tracker. The various trackers have been independently verified by thousands who are using them.
It's all I need to offer from my side.
Saying effigy, which has not particular meaning means "I have no idea what it is and I want a better word than magic shit".
I have no issue with your mileometer. This is not what we're arguing.
The argument is in proving a globe.
That is exactly what we are proving in one of many ways. The distances between cities are well understood and tested. You can not lay those accepted distances out on a 2D map. From this statement only three possible conclusions can be drawn:
1) The distances are wrong. Provide any single case where distances have been fixed to support the idea of a globe
2) You can lay out these distances on a flat 2D map and I'm wrong. Please demonstrate
3) We live on a globe and the only way those well measured distances work are with a globe.

3 is the correct answer, please feel free to provide evidence otherwise.
 
I'm waiting for the inevitable.
And you can stop with the persecuted minority bollocks.

No one is trying to shut you down.

In fact the majority of posters on this thread would actually like you to contribute more, by simply answering their polite and straightforward questions without deflection.

I know it's difficult when your whole premise is utter bollocks, but all we ask is that you try your best.
 

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