Put a flat earthier into space

But what is the force that is pushing it down in the first place? If I slide the rock from the ground to the surface of the water I have not given it any potential energy, and (crucially) energy can't be created from nothing so it should stay on top of the water. That is unless there is some other force at play here?
It's the crush force vibration of dense matter (crucial) minus the wavelength of friction volume against non sucking atmosphere
 


But what is the force that is pushing it down in the first place? If I slide the rock from the ground to the surface of the water I have not given it any potential energy, and (crucially) energy can't be created from nothing so it should stay on top of the water. That is unless there is some other force at play here?
In our world energy can't be created from nothing.
Who knows in Nukeys alternative world though......
Could this be the next big scientific reveal.
 
But what is the force that is pushing it down in the first place?
The actual object itself displacing the atmospheric stacked layers.
If I slide the rock from the ground to the surface of the water I have not given it any potential energy,
No, you've given it energy from your very own energy and then the rock sits atop the water if you are still using your energy to hold its dense mass against atmospheric displacement of it and your hand.
Leave loose and you offer full rock displacement of atmosphere against the foundation of the water which is no match for crushing it back up against that dense mass against atmosphere crushing it down.

The potential energy of the rock is you holding it on the water. Once you let go you offer whatever energy you applied back to the atmospheric push/crush back down.
and (crucially) energy can't be created from nothing so it should stay on top of the water.
It does. Your hand is that energy and it's not nothing.
That is unless there is some other force at play here?
There is no need for any other force to be at at play.
Gravity is utter nonsense.
 
The actual object itself displacing the atmospheric stacked layers.

No, you've given it energy from your very own energy and then the rock sits atop the water if you are still using your energy to hold its dense mass against atmospheric displacement of it and your hand.
Leave loose and you offer full rock displacement of atmosphere against the foundation of the water which is no match for crushing it back up against that dense mass against atmosphere crushing it down.

The potential energy of the rock is you holding it on the water. Once you let go you offer whatever energy you applied back to the atmospheric push/crush back down.

It does. Your hand is that energy and it's not nothing.

There is no need for any other force to be at at play.
Gravity is utter nonsense.
Energy, energy........don't stop moving, baby
 
The actual object itself displacing the atmospheric stacked layers.

No, you've given it energy from your very own energy and then the rock sits atop the water if you are still using your energy to hold its dense mass against atmospheric displacement of it and your hand.
Leave loose and you offer full rock displacement of atmosphere against the foundation of the water which is no match for crushing it back up against that dense mass against atmosphere crushing it down.

The potential energy of the rock is you holding it on the water. Once you let go you offer whatever energy you applied back to the atmospheric push/crush back down.

It does. Your hand is that energy and it's not nothing.

There is no need for any other force to be at at play.
Gravity is utter nonsense.
So the pressure from the atmosphere overcomes the waters surface tension and forces the object down under the water?
 
So the pressure from the atmosphere overcomes the waters surface tension and forces the object down under the water?
The object itself must displace atmosphere by its own dense mass.
What it displaces of atmosphere will be added to that atmospheric crush back onto the dense mass of the object, pushing it down against the resistance of the water.

If the resistance of the water is more than the dense mass of the objects atmospheric crush, the object will only displace so much of the water and float, as we know it to.
 
The object itself must displace atmosphere by its own dense mass.
What it displaces of atmosphere will be added to that atmospheric crush back onto the dense mass of the object, pushing it down against the resistance of the water.

If the resistance of the water is more than the dense mass of the objects atmospheric crush, the object will only displace so much of the water and float, as we know it to.
is there a calculation for atmospheric crush that shipbuilders use?
 
The object itself must displace atmosphere by its own dense mass.
What it displaces of atmosphere will be added to that atmospheric crush back onto the dense mass of the object, pushing it down against the resistance of the water.

If the resistance of the water is more than the dense mass of the objects atmospheric crush, the object will only displace so much of the water and float, as we know it to.
But what makes the object accelerate in the first place? Nothing can be displaced until it moves.
 
But what makes the object accelerate in the first place? Nothing can be displaced until it moves.
If you have a foundation for an object it will displace. It may move minutely in terms of expansion and contraction but it obviously won't move to the naked eye.
To accelerate it, it requires energy for it to overcome the pressure holding it in place.
Made-up dome is still not a sphere.
It's still a hemisphere.
 
If you have a foundation for an object it will displace. It may move minutely in terms of expansion and contraction but it obviously won't move to the naked eye.
To accelerate it, it requires energy for it to overcome the pressure holding it in place.

It's still a hemisphere.
Which is irrelevant to the correct use of the word atmosphere.
 
If you have a foundation for an object it will displace. It may move minutely in terms of expansion and contraction but it obviously won't move to the naked eye.
To accelerate it, it requires energy for it to overcome the pressure holding it in place.
So what is the energy that makes the object fall which (crucially) means it is accelerating?
 

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