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PSR rules and the real KLD/KS masterclass

southstander said:
Stadium naming rights?

Fuck has anyone thought of naming rights for each blade of grass, especially when Hume takes someone out, the camera could zoom in.
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How much is Montgomery paying for the west stand?

I do wonder if them renaming the west stand is to cushion the blow of renaming the ground. As long as its not a betting sponsor I wouldn't mind it.
 

Grumpy Old Man said:
Harder to do it now. They'd need to be Rooney/Gerrard/Owen level at that age.
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Are you suggesting that’s the end of us blooding youngsters with massive game time? Changing it to loaning them out more maybe? I can see what you mean, but I thought that was our modus operandi.
Be interesting to see what happens anyway
 
cluffy said:
Are you suggesting that’s the end of us blooding youngsters with massive game time? Changing it to loaning them out more maybe? I can see what you mean, but I thought that was our modus operandi.
Be interesting to see what happens anyway
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It's far harder. Players will need to have controlled loans at Championship level first I think. Pointless loaning them any lower really. From what I've seen watching the age groups this year, only Abdullahi looks close to going straight into a Pl squad. Neil looks an even better prospect, but he's still very young.
 
We’re gonna have Watson on the books soon as pure profit too. Same as if we sell rigg for big money that’ll all be pure profit.that’s why we’ve seen some cough fudging with clubs selling youth players etc for daft money between each other.
mackemdr said:
Seen many on here often lament "why are we spending more" and the club has a clear strategy here is where it pays of.

PSR rules say a club cannot lose more than £105 million over 3 seasons.

Leeds (who are already about selling to buy) have lost over £90mill the last 2 seasons.

Burnley around £65mill

Our £18mill losses over two seasons SHOULD give us the ability to invest
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Grumpy Old Man said:
Seems a bit silly writing it, but compared to what he's going to have to achieve now, Speakman's had a fairly easy job so far.
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Similar I would say.

To compete and achieve with parachute clubs with a relative pitance with the proviso you can only pay money for young players who could increase value is a very hard task.

Now he has real money to spend hopefully with the model relaxed somewhat to try compete in the Premier League with clubs with even more resources is a similar very hard task.

The failure of other clubs to survive in season one is largely down to poor recruitment. Some have seemingly spent for spendings sake rather than buying players who can genuinely compete. Poor management and poor tactics have also played their part.

He's out of the frying pan into the fire really.
 
Its undeniable that it is harder today to survive as a newly promoted club than it was even 5 years ago. 6 clubs going up and back down in 2 years should be enough to illustrate that to most. Will it be a massive challenge to even compete to stay up? Yes. Is it impossible for us to stay up? No.

The gap is massive and the 17 teams who've been able to amass squads and wealth that dwarf the rest of the pyramid in this country but that isn't impossible to overcome. Luton have made the best go of it in the previous two seasons and were ultimately only 6 points from safety by the time the season ended. Luton are undoubtedly also the smallest and least revenue generating of any of the 6 clubs to go down in the past two seasons yet they managed the best in the Premier League.

We have to be prepared to acknowledge where we are in the food chain right now. We are coming into this league with the least resources out of anyone. But there's no reason that strong, clever recruitment and a structured, defencive counter attacking style cant give us every chance to survive.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
That's the standard accounting practice - amortise over the contract length (up to 5 years). The 5 year limit was introduced because Chelsea took the piss by dishing out 8 year contracts.
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Haha they were weren’t they was it the Ukrainian lad they signed to an eight year deal or something 😂😂
 
LurkerSB said:
Its undeniable that it is harder today to survive as a newly promoted club than it was even 5 years ago. 6 clubs going up and back down in 2 years should be enough to illustrate that to most. Will it be a massive challenge to even compete to stay up? Yes. Is it impossible for us to stay up? No.

The gap is massive and the 17 teams who've been able to amass squads and wealth that dwarf the rest of the pyramid in this country but that isn't impossible to overcome. Luton have made the best go of it in the previous two seasons and were ultimately only 6 points from safety by the time the season ended. Luton are undoubtedly also the smallest and least revenue generating of any of the 6 clubs to go down in the past two seasons yet they managed the best in the Premier League.

We have to be prepared to acknowledge where we are in the food chain right now. We are coming into this league with the least resources out of anyone. But there's no reason that strong, clever recruitment and a structured, defencive counter attacking style cant give us every chance to survive.
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Luton were six points behind Forest and we've seen what happened to them jn terms of progression! Ignoring Forest the next team (Brentford) had 39 pts.

You could make the argument that the points required is back where it was when people advocated for around 40 to stay up.
 
LurkerSB said:
Its undeniable that it is harder today to survive as a newly promoted club than it was even 5 years ago. 6 clubs going up and back down in 2 years should be enough to illustrate that to most. Will it be a massive challenge to even compete to stay up? Yes. Is it impossible for us to stay up? No.

The gap is massive and the 17 teams who've been able to amass squads and wealth that dwarf the rest of the pyramid in this country but that isn't impossible to overcome. Luton have made the best go of it in the previous two seasons and were ultimately only 6 points from safety by the time the season ended. Luton are undoubtedly also the smallest and least revenue generating of any of the 6 clubs to go down in the past two seasons yet they managed the best in the Premier League.

We have to be prepared to acknowledge where we are in the food chain right now. We are coming into this league with the least resources out of anyone. But there's no reason that strong, clever recruitment and a structured, defencive counter attacking style cant give us every chance to survive.
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We are also coming into it with a lot more than even Leeds or Burnley as others have said they haven’t got much wiggle room unless they start selling we are probably going in with one of the smallest losses in a very long time bar Luton as most clubs have spent to get there where as we haven’t. We also have more room to grow income wise, clubs like Burnley are limited and Leeds won’t see much of a jump having been there not long ago where as us we could see things grow quite a lot off the field with new corporate stuff going on a larger capacity stadium with not much money needing spent on the ground and training ground. There won’t be many teams going up with such a blank slate and most of the infrastructure in place. It’s time fans stop down playing what we have here.
 
If the figures I'm hearing are correct, we have just won a game worth £220 mill. Surely that is profit against the bottom line?
We could spend £219,999,999 and still not be losing money.

How the fuck can we lose money unless we just piss that up the wall?
 
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