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Poveda

Alfa said:
Poveda seems a strange signing for me.

He was presumably brought in as an alternative to Roberts although for me he’s just like a poor man’s version.

He doesn’t seem to have any real pace, slows the game down and on the albeit brief cameo’s we’ve seen to date seems pretty poor at decision making even when he stays on his feet.

The club presumably saw some real potential in him given the length of contract he was offered but I’ve seen nothing (yet) to share their optimism.
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We haven’t seen enough of him so far and he’s far too rusty to make long standing judgment of him to be fair.

I’m quietly confident that he’ll start to impress as he gets those vital minutes in.
 

happy said:
Ok I respect your view,so given that information why do you think they gave him that contract!
If they were just throwing money at it in the hope he would just hit form and come good,then we are surely doomed,as that type of business will ruin a club in very little time.
Also there's examples of players not doing great,then they get a move and come good,it's a team game,not just about the individual.
I just think give him at least a few games before we write him off,that's all.
If Enzo has 2 bad games I'm sure the knifes will come out,give him all the support we can, if we get on his back,it will just make it more difficult for him. If I'm wrong then so be it,but at least we can say we gave him the best possible support.
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You set your standards, and the bar has been raised this season. Players who a year ago may have walked on water are no simply not good enough for where the team is.
If you can’t improve on what we have there really is little point.
Obviously the development players are there to be patient with as they grow over time.
But Poveda for me flatters to deceive, he is something of a show pony and as I say not good enough to be near team before likes of Mayenda, Mundle, Watson, Le Fee and even Alecsic… let alone Roberts.
By my reckoning that makes him 7th choice
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
Suppose the frustrating thing with both Poveda and Samed is that we should be able to get into a position whereby the game is already won before bringing them on.
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Valid point but let's face it,we have had that problem since Stewart left( fantastic business by the way) but we went along the lines of,goals can come from other areas.for far to long we have played some amazing football,but not got the results that, that deserves.
We have been left thin in the striker dept,yes Wilson is scoring,and goals from other players,but it's not enough.
If they get injured you have no back up.
What a luxury it would be to have 3 decent strikers,at this stage of the season,imagine being 3 up and strikers hungry to get on to get Thier share.
It would demoralise teams knowing how god we are and having a bench that scares them.
I know it isn't as easy as that but steward has been gone a long time.
No comparison at all,but can you remember city at their best,they didn't care if you put five past them,they could always hit you with more.
It would be lovely for just once to look at the bench knowing there is someone there to make a difference.
 
Roberts 1 goal every 17 appearances in this league and an assist every 9.4

Poveda 1 goal every 20 appearances in this league and an assist every 12

He's less productive than someone with no end product and he's injured most of the time, god knows why we brought him in. Hopefully he proves everyone wrong but he's not started very well
 
SAFC Wilks said:
This. Poveda is too similar to Roberts imo. Skillful inverted winger on the right.

If it doesn’t work with Roberts, it’s likely to work with Poveda (and vice versa).
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What a strange stance. Nearly every team in the country plays inverted wingers.
You do know that Clarke, Mundle and Watson are inverted wingers right?
 
YorkMackem said:
What a strange stance. Nearly every team in the country plays inverted wingers.
You do know that Clarke, Mundle and Watson are inverted wingers right?
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I read it as he was pointing out how they were similar, and then saying that if it isn’t working for one of them then changing to a similar player won’t make much difference.
 
YorkMackem said:
What a strange stance. Nearly every team in the country plays inverted wingers.
You do know that Clarke, Mundle and Watson are inverted wingers right?
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No, I meant Poveda & Roberts are both similar in style.

Both are tricky wingers who’d use skill to beat the full back but won’t run at them. Whilst someone like Mayenda, Watson, Mundle & Clarke would run at the full back more.

If it doesn’t work with one of Poveda/Roberts, you’d want to replace them with a more direct option.
 
SAFC Wilks said:
No, I meant Poveda & Roberts are both similar in style.

Both are tricky wingers who’d use skill to beat the full back but won’t run at them. Whilst someone like Mayenda, Watson, Mundle & Clarke would run at the full back more.

If it doesn’t work with one of Poveda/Roberts, you’d want to replace them with a more direct option.
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We've only seen Poveda for around 80 minutes man!
 
Smiler said:
Roberts 1 goal every 17 appearances in this league and an assist every 9.4

Poveda 1 goal every 20 appearances in this league and an assist every 12

He's less productive than someone with no end product and he's injured most of the time, god knows why we brought him in. Hopefully he proves everyone wrong but he's not started very well
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I quite like him. He’s unpredictable and offers something a bit different.

Spoke to a Leeds and a Sheffield Wednesday fan when we signed him and both said he’s a really talented footballer….who is always injured.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
Suppose the frustrating thing with both Poveda and Samed is that we should be able to get into a position whereby the game is already won before bringing them on.
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This has been part of the problem.

A while ago fans were complaining about us not bringing subs on. However due to the injuries we had at the time the bench was such a downgrade from the starting eleven it was too big as every game we have there is nothing in it.

Now we are making subs and everyone is still complaining.
 
rentaghost said:
This has been part of the problem.

A while ago fans were complaining about us not bringing subs on. However due to the injuries we had at the time the bench was such a downgrade from the starting eleven it was too big as every game we have there is nothing in it.

Now we are making subs and everyone is still complaining.
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We should’ve addressed the RW problem in January really.
 
Chewit said:
You set your standards, and the bar has been raised this season. Players who a year ago may have walked on water are no simply not good enough for where the team is.
If you can’t improve on what we have there really is little point.
Obviously the development players are there to be patient with as they grow over time.
But Poveda for me flatters to deceive, he is something of a show pony and as I say not good enough to be near team before likes of Mayenda, Mundle, Watson, Le Fee and even Alecsic… let alone Roberts.
By my reckoning that makes him 7th choice
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Can’t say I’ve ever seem him ‘flatter’.
 
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