Passing on tickets to gain points

[MackemLass]

Agreed - I'm on 16 which I know isn't a lot compared to others but they have cost me a lot of time and money and to be lumped in with a STH who has never been to an away is crap

Must be even worse for someone on 24

Same for us. Due to work we haven’t been able to get to many away but now that’s changed we’ve done as many as we can including the likes of Portsmouth and Cardiff this season. Yet someone who hasn’t been to a single game is lumped in with us. Poor phase

 

[Essayeffsee]

The current system massively favours people who have a large disposable income and are time rich.

Be impossible for someone working full time on minimum wage with a family to ever build sufficient points to see an away game closer to Sunderland.

Just a little bit elitist for what was a working class club.

It favours those who prioritise spending time and money following the lads over other things. Plenty of games go to general sale but always a reason people who don’t have lots of points can’t attend them.

 

[Hawkings Boots]

It favours those who prioritise spending time and money following the lads over other things. Plenty of games go to general sale but always a reason people who don’t have lots of points can’t attend them.

Yep - know plenty who go without holidays, nights out etc as following the lads is their entertainment

 

[TheCat99]

The people with high points have generally done the slog to build them up at some point. Do people really care that they keep their points high by flogging the ticket or the branch using it because we can’t get the odd away ticket we would really like too a few times of year now we are half decent?

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

The merchandise suggestion was a pisstake! Every bit as fair and as relevant as ladies. Want to encourage people to buy club stuff rather than DHGate.

The old voucher scheme was a good idea. Saved me and many others a lot of hassle. The club should get the lowest allocation and if thats Luton c1,200 should contact top 500 points holders to ask if they want.

I know mate. I was referring to others who mentioned points for the club shop.

If they do a Voucher 62 thing I think it should be 100 rather than 500. When they did that Mowbray invite-only event I think you ‘only’ had to have been to 80% of games to be in the top 250 points holders.

 

[Essayeffsee]

That would be fine. Number can be decided but for a percentage of fans they go each week and dont pass on. Would make it easier.

I never went to the Mowbray thing - didnt pass my ticket on either! Remember ages ago we got invited into a box for a home game so cant have been that many people

 

[Becs]

Under the old system, you got a point for applying even if you didn't get a ticket.
They could reintroduce a similar system which would eliminate all the issues around large point drop offs

That had people applying for ones they didn't want to go to but knew would sell out, just to get a point.

Non season ticket holders should be able to accumulate points and be in the same phases as STH imo.

Season ticket holders should be rewarded over non-season ticket holders as they're committed to putting money into the club.

For example, someone who lives in London, never goes to home matches and just wants to go to the London aways. They're not actually contributing a penny to the club so it's unfair to season ticket holders if they get a ticket ahead of them.

 

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That had people applying for ones they didn't want to go to but knew would sell out, just to get a point.

High demand games they used to put a minimum point limit before you could apply. Which stopped people building up points for games they knew they wouldn't get a ticket for.

 

[Chop Sauce]

Why not give a point for every £10 spent in the club shop?

Its ridiculous the same number of points are given for womens home games than are given for away games at Plymouth etc... Its a different team. Points arent awarded for u21, u18 and pre season friendlies but are for that. Makes a mockery of a loyalty point system that awards the fans who go anywhere and everywhere to watch the first team.

Doesn’t fit the agenda. Might as well just sell points the way it’s going.

 

[Essayeffsee]

That had people applying for ones they didn't want to go to but knew would sell out, just to get a point.


Season ticket holders should be rewarded over non-season ticket holders as they're committed to putting money into the club.

For example, someone who lives in London, never goes to home matches and just wants to go to the London aways. They're not actually contributing a penny to the club so it's unfair to season ticket holders if they get a ticket ahead of them.

The whole London thing is used all the time.

There are plenty of fans who travel up every week from London for home games and have sufficient points to go to every away game.

Doesn’t fit the agenda. Might as well just sell points the way it’s going.

All because Bob from London and Steve from Seaham didnt fancy building up points in League 1 and when fixtures go to general sale.

Just get over it, buy in their end, ask on here and so on. I guarantee that many of those people who are in the top grouping for away tickets have gone in other end to get into matches before. All down to how much want to see the game.

Ive a 5yr old daughter. She is up to about 25 points (& never went to lasses game) but its impossible to build up. Make it make sense.

 

[Becs]

The whole London thing is used all the time.

There are plenty of fans who travel up every week from London for home games and have sufficient points to go to every away game.

They would be able to get an away ticket over someone who doesn't go to home matches.

 

[BarnesPark]

Season ticket holders should be rewarded over non-season ticket holders as they're committed to putting money into the club.

I have no real problem with this but if priority for tickets is based on how much money people put into the club, a lot of people on here need to stop twisting about corporates access to tickets.

On the basis you suggest, If you pay for a box/ hospitality (and therefore put the most money into the club) l, you should be first in line for away tickets.

 

[humbug]

to me it appears that no matter what criteria is used there'll always be some complaining and blaming others for not being able to get a ticket. some of it is justified but some not so.
the simple answer is to actually go to games. it's been said and it's true there is ample opportunity to do this. i don't get to them all, especially midweek long hauls due to work but do them all that are on a weekend unless we're on holiday.
there's no closed shop but people always blame something whether it be the system/branches/corporate because they can't get tickets for the 'glamour' aways.
the averaging of points worked well for us personally because we could get tickets together with our mates because ours would boost theirs up but tbh it didn't sit right that they could get priority with say 10 points over someone with 20.
i think the last few years since ticketmaster has been involved the ticketing for both home and aways has been an absolute shambles. we used to have a brilliant ticket office but it's all gone to shit. i'm not saying it's the staff as on the odd occasion we've had to go in they've been spot on, it's the behind the scenes stuff that really should be improved on.

edit, did there not used to be a membership scheme where those who don't have season tickets could apply for tickets and gain points? i do think it's unfair that folk who for whatever reason don't have a s/t are excluded from getting away tickets.

 

[YES WE GYAN]

Season ticket holders should be rewarded over non-season ticket holders as they're committed to putting money into the club.

For example, someone who lives in London, never goes to home matches and just wants to go to the London aways. They're not actually contributing a penny to the club so it's unfair to season ticket holders if they get a ticket ahead of them.

They would still be rewarded with 23 points for attending each home game.

 

[Essayeffsee]

They would be able to get an away ticket over someone who doesn't go to home matches.

Ive not said otherwise.

People claiming live in London or away from home is why they dont have a season ticket. Plenty travel up each week from London - thats what I was saying.

 

[Kumbuka]

Ive not said otherwise.

People claiming live in London or away from home is why they dont have a season ticket. Plenty travel up each week from London - thats what I was saying.

I assume a fair few do what I do, and buy a season ticket just for away games. I’ll probably make 3-6 home games a year from London depending on kick off times and how well we’re doing etc.

Whilst the £400 or so for a season ticket is expensive, it is affordable in the context of away day costs. My £400 season ticket will probably cost the same as the combined cost of a fan travelling down to the Watford, QPR and Millwall away games.

Also getting to games from London can be easier in a lot of circumstances than from Sunderland. If we ever got to the Prem it would be even more advantageous, given half the league is south of Watford.

 

[nyron4england]

That had people applying for ones they didn't want to go to but knew would sell out, just to get a point.


Season ticket holders should be rewarded over non-season ticket holders as they're committed to putting money into the club.

For example, someone who lives in London, never goes to home matches and just wants to go to the London aways. They're not actually contributing a penny to the club so it's unfair to season ticket holders if they get a ticket ahead of them.

assuming they don't spend money on merchandise...

 

[Real class of 92]

We (Leeds) had a similar system, with branches getting an allocation. Ended over a decade ago. Away tickets are now allocated to AST holders guaranteed (should be for £850), then tracker from previous season, then HST holders and finally members. Branches now rely on individuals to get their own tickets. You can only order a maximum of 10 tickets and they must be allocated to paid up members only, on your family and friends account.

It means that some branches don't have enough people with tickets to run aways or people fill another branches bus to make it viable. Still lots of farming out tickets for loyalty.

Home system is more straight forward. Season ticket holders have to attend 80% of home games or lose their ST for following season. However, "attendance" includes transferring to another member on your account or selling ticket back to club (you get pro rata credit which you can redeem of next year's ST). It's a good system that pretty much ensures no or very little empty seats.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

The whole London thing is used all the time.

There are plenty of fans who travel up every week from London for home games and have sufficient points to go to every away game.


All because Bob from London and Steve from Seaham didnt fancy building up points in League 1 and when fixtures go to general sale.

Just get over it, buy in their end, ask on here and so on. I guarantee that many of those people who are in the top grouping for away tickets have gone in other end to get into matches before. All down to how much want to see the game.

Ive a 5yr old daughter. She is up to about 25 points (& never went to lasses game) but its impossible to build up. Make it make sense.

Some of us travel from a lot further than London.

 

[Essayeffsee]

I assume a fair few do what I do, and buy a season ticket just for away games. I’ll probably make 3-6 home games a year from London depending on kick off times and how well we’re doing etc.

Whilst the £400 or so for a season ticket is expensive, it is affordable in the context of away day costs. My £400 season ticket will probably cost the same as the combined cost of a fan travelling down to the Watford, QPR and Millwall away games.

Also getting to games from London can be easier in a lot of circumstances than from Sunderland. If we ever got to the Prem it would be even more advantageous, given half the league is south of Watford.

And doubt anyone has any problem with you doing that. Dare say other ex pats round country do similar.

I lived in London for 10 years and did about 90% of home games in that period. So know others who do same and drink with them at home and away games.

Some of us travel from a lot further than London.

Sure some do. But its always London that people quote