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And the game will be gone without them. DisgracefulYes it's me again on my favourite subject but I've taken in a few Northern league games in lately and it genuinely astounds me of what goes on. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting all sunshine and happiness. It's a passionate game and I expect people to get pissed off, frustrated and all that but fuck me the abuse the officials take is absolute ridiculous. It must be quite soul destroying. Just constant twisting coming from the players and sidelines, everything decision contested, appealing for stuff thats clearly not theres and twisting still when its rightly not given. Witnessed a couple of young lasses running the lines which I thought was great to see but even then players and spectators just getting on to them all the time. Has it always been like this? Has it filtered down from professional football. Why anyone wants to do it is beyond me..As I said above it must be absolutely soul destroying having to listen to it all the time.
Needs to be stamped out from the top, instant yellow cards for shouting at the ref/assistant and only the captain allowed to talk to them unless the ref starts the conversation.
England's future number 1 Jack Butland at the weekend was up for a corner and wiped the keeper out, keeper on the floor blatant foul but Butland goes mental at the ref saying it's not a foul, he'd still be rolling around now if it was the 92nd minute in an older firm that they were winning. Clubs need to be fined and parents banned in the lower/youth leagues if it continues, without referees we don't have a game it's that simple.
My first career was in teaching and my first substantive post was at Farringdon School starting in 1973. As I taught P.E. at the time I soon enthusiastically took teams for Saturday morning football. Teachers refereed their own school games including those with little or no experience of playing. I was experienced having played for many teams. I remember boy’s football to be much worse than that playing as an adult. Parents would readily berate and harass over any and every decision. I recall, in refereeing on one occasion, abruptly stopping the game and warning parents to stop the abuse with the potential consequence of me abandoning the game should it continue. Within the past few years, as coach / assistant manager of a Durham U16 Boys team, it was exactly the same attitude towards the qualified referees who would officiate our teams but with parents and opposition teams and players often haranguing the mainly younger or inexperienced officials.i'm not sure if its getting worse or i'm just noticing it more
was at Seaham Red Star v Boro Rangers a few weeks back and the Boro manager and his little assistant spent the entire match berating the ref.. literally every two seconds 'your a disgrace referee' 'your f***ing blind' and accusations of cheating etc... then as soon as the opposition put a foot wrong 'get him off man ref its a blatant red card' blah blah blah
it was genuinely pathetic. we were stood just to the side of the dug outs. not once did the manager say anything to his player, rearrange them, encourage them, change the shape or help them in any way. not once.
It could be stopped but the players and media will complain and it'll get ignored again. Then the media will talk about how grass roots referees are quoting and say its a shame. Different obviously but the whole time wasting thing lasted 5 or so games before they got that rule changed back.I'm pretty sure it could be stopped relatively easily, there just doesn't appear to be a will to do so.
It could be stopped but the players and media will complain and it'll get ignored again. Then the media will talk about how grass roots referees are quoting and say its a shame. Different obviously but the whole time wasting thing lasted 5 or so games before they got that rule changed back.
Players cheating is the worst thing in the game, VAR would be solved pretty much if players were honest and didn't cheat.
i'm not sure if its getting worse or i'm just noticing it more
was at Seaham Red Star v Boro Rangers a few weeks back and the Boro manager and his little assistant spent the entire match berating the ref.. literally every two seconds 'your a disgrace referee' 'your f***ing blind' and accusations of cheating etc... then as soon as the opposition put a foot wrong 'get him off man ref its a blatant red card' blah blah blah
it was genuinely pathetic. we were stood just to the side of the dug outs. not once did the manager say anything to his player, rearrange them, encourage them, change the shape or help them in any way. not once.
My boy plays football and cricket. The difference between how parents and coaches behave is night and day. The football problem is plain and simple. It has a minority of coaches and supporters that are monumental wankers.Was a tennis tournament at david lloyd recently.
All parents basically watching through window from room nextdoor.
I thought what a far better environmrnt than the kids constantly hearing the knackers.
Was having a bit crack with a ref who was mentoring and assessing a young lass reffing game at Ford hub couple Sundays back. He said they’re losing loads of potentially very good refs because even at under 10s and younger the grief and threats they get just aren’t worth the moneyYes it's me again on my favourite subject but I've taken in a few Northern league games in lately and it genuinely astounds me of what goes on. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting all sunshine and happiness. It's a passionate game and I expect people to get pissed off, frustrated and all that but fuck me the abuse the officials take is absolute ridiculous. It must be quite soul destroying. Just constant twisting coming from the players and sidelines, everything decision contested, appealing for stuff thats clearly not theres and twisting still when its rightly not given. Witnessed a couple of young lasses running the lines which I thought was great to see but even then players and spectators just getting on to them all the time. Has it always been like this? Has it filtered down from professional football. Why anyone wants to do it is beyond me..As I said above it must be absolutely soul destroying having to listen to it all the time.
Did you speak out and support the officials being abused?Yes it's me again on my favourite subject but I've taken in a few Northern league games in lately and it genuinely astounds me of what goes on. Don't get me wrong I'm not expecting all sunshine and happiness. It's a passionate game and I expect people to get pissed off, frustrated and all that but fuck me the abuse the officials take is absolute ridiculous. It must be quite soul destroying. Just constant twisting coming from the players and sidelines, everything decision contested, appealing for stuff thats clearly not theres and twisting still when its rightly not given. Witnessed a couple of young lasses running the lines which I thought was great to see but even then players and spectators just getting on to them all the time. Has it always been like this? Has it filtered down from professional football. Why anyone wants to do it is beyond me..As I said above it must be absolutely soul destroying having to listen to it all the time.
Did you speak out and support the officials being abused?
Well doneYes I stopped the game, gathered players and officials together and showed them the error of there ways
Yes I stopped the game, gathered players and officials together and showed them the error of there ways
Can't comment on refereeing, but cricket umpiring involves evening classes on the Laws, followed by exams (written and oral) to get qualified. After that, you start in the lower leagues and progress to higher standard games on the basis of assessments.What's the crack for getting into refereeing? I mean from a standing start of being a football fan who works 8-5 every day.
Is there a lot of time consuming courses to go on just to get your foot in the door? I think it would be a great hobby to have If you took out the abuse
What's the crack for getting into refereeing? I mean from a standing start of being a football fan who works 8-5 every day.
Is there a lot of time consuming courses to go on just to get your foot in the door? I think it would be a great hobby to have If you took out the abuse
They don't have to listen to it, the rules are in place to tackle it, the Yellow and Red cards are the Referees way of maintaining discipline, but they choose not to use them. Apply the rules and it will stop, if it doesn't keep on applying the rules till the game has to be abandoned, simple as that.
My first career was in teaching and my first substantive post was at Farringdon School starting in 1973. As I taught P.E. at the time I soon enthusiastically took teams for Saturday morning football. Teachers refereed their own school games including those with little or no experience of playing. I was experienced having played for many teams. I remember boy’s football to be much worse than that playing as an adult. Parents would readily berate and harass over any and every decision. I recall, in refereeing on one occasion, abruptly stopping the game and warning parents to stop the abuse with the potential consequence of me abandoning the game should it continue. Within the past few years, as coach / assistant manager of a Durham U16 Boys team, it was exactly the same attitude towards the qualified referees who would officiate our teams but with parents and opposition teams and players often haranguing the mainly younger or inexperienced officials.
Unfortunately, kicking, fouling, back answering, swearing, walking away from the referees and parental attitudes all undermines their authority. But the officials also have to share responsibility as most often they don’t apply the rules either consistently (eg use of informal totting up procedures, different informal rules inside compared to outside the penalty area) or at all at times for fear of reprisals or being marked low on team feedback.
It could be stopped but the players and media will complain and it'll get ignored again. Then the media will talk about how grass roots referees are quoting and say its a shame. Different obviously but the whole time wasting thing lasted 5 or so games before they got that rule changed back.
Players cheating is the worst thing in the game, VAR would be solved pretty much if players were honest and didn't cheat.
What's the crack for getting into refereeing? I mean from a standing start of being a football fan who works 8-5 every day.
Is there a lot of time consuming courses to go on just to get your foot in the door? I think it would be a great hobby to have If you took out the abuse
The time is getting added but the players are not being booked for doing it, keepers are still given 4 warnings and then booked in the 93rd minute, book them in the 26th when they start doing it and magically half of the added time wouldnt need to be added.I know you say it's changed back re time wasting, but we're still seeing a lot more time added on than in previous seasons. I personally think it's better than it has been.
He was wearing a ref's top and frantically applauded every decision, whether good or bad. Got the officials autographs after the game and gave them a one man guard of honour as they walked towards the changing rooms.Did you speak out and support the officials being abused?
My son's 15 and he's a grass roots ref,even that can be ridiculous up to the point I just can't watch him do it incase I punch a parent. Seriously