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Some cracking arguments in this thread from both sides of the divide. 
I'm a dirty Mag - disgusting, I know - but I'd routinely have uncles trying to take me to a Sunderland game or convince me I'd rather have a red and white shirt for Christmas, so I don't hate you lot, I just want to beat you in the derby. Hence why I signed up. I like to check in on your results and chat a bit of footy.
The Benitez argument is old hat. Aye, he was the one that took us down, and if he'd had two more games, or been appointed earlier he'd have kept us up. The problem is football doesn't run on ifs and buts, if it did you'd still be in the Premier League and we'd have won the thing in the 90s. He did also spend a lot in the Championship, after selling a lot. What I think he did well was bond the squad together quickly. You saw when you came in to League One that it takes time usually to get that sync. He did it quickly while managing the pressure of needing to get up at the first-time of asking - failure to do that would have been embarrassing.
His football wasn't sparkling when we came up - but it didn't need to be, it needed to be pragmatic. I did think his last six months had some genuinely brilliant performances. You could see what he was trying to shift towards - quick counter-attacking football.
Also, while I could unpick his motivations for doing so, I quite liked that he told Ashley what for in the press. Give me that over a spineless sod like Bruce any day of the week. Geordie my arse. He blamed that for not working with you lot, and I saw enough of those games -the derby springs to mind- as proof that it had nothing to do with it.
Anyway, for what it's worth, I think we'll meet next season. Bruce wants a fat payout, Ashley won't give it him, and for as much as this new system seems better than the old one - just like - I don't think we'll get our better players back in time. C'est la vie, a trip to Rohtherham it is.
I'm a dirty Mag - disgusting, I know - but I'd routinely have uncles trying to take me to a Sunderland game or convince me I'd rather have a red and white shirt for Christmas, so I don't hate you lot, I just want to beat you in the derby. Hence why I signed up. I like to check in on your results and chat a bit of footy.
The Benitez argument is old hat. Aye, he was the one that took us down, and if he'd had two more games, or been appointed earlier he'd have kept us up. The problem is football doesn't run on ifs and buts, if it did you'd still be in the Premier League and we'd have won the thing in the 90s. He did also spend a lot in the Championship, after selling a lot. What I think he did well was bond the squad together quickly. You saw when you came in to League One that it takes time usually to get that sync. He did it quickly while managing the pressure of needing to get up at the first-time of asking - failure to do that would have been embarrassing.
His football wasn't sparkling when we came up - but it didn't need to be, it needed to be pragmatic. I did think his last six months had some genuinely brilliant performances. You could see what he was trying to shift towards - quick counter-attacking football.
Also, while I could unpick his motivations for doing so, I quite liked that he told Ashley what for in the press. Give me that over a spineless sod like Bruce any day of the week. Geordie my arse. He blamed that for not working with you lot, and I saw enough of those games -the derby springs to mind- as proof that it had nothing to do with it.
Anyway, for what it's worth, I think we'll meet next season. Bruce wants a fat payout, Ashley won't give it him, and for as much as this new system seems better than the old one - just like - I don't think we'll get our better players back in time. C'est la vie, a trip to Rohtherham it is.
