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forever changes said:
I see Starmer was so uncomfortable sitting on the fence this morning when asked about it !?
Simply said their should have been an ‘independent’ enquiry into it !
He didn’t dare alienate his Labour heartland by saying what he really thought !
He was just ‘uncomfortable’ with it 🙄
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Independent enquiry is politician speak for “do fuck all and hope it goes away”
 
Nelson! said:
I can, hand on heart, say I’m glad it isn’t us. You aren’t likely to find too many football owners without their share of murky deadline to one degree or another. Being owned by the state of Saudi Arabia, however, as a tool for their sports washing enterprise would probably see me lose all interest.

I know the majority of them won’t care, they are who they are. It’s pretty bleak if you think about it however and if there’s any justice it will blow up in their face. I remember when Ashley was going to win the PL for them.

SA doesn’t “hate the West”, they’re trading partners and de facto allies in the region for the US and the UK. Which is precisely why shit like this is allowed to happen.
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Probably the most sensible thing i have read on this thread. I think it's easy for everyone to say that it's a disgrace (Which it is) but i also think alot of our fans would be celebrating if we were in the same position had we became one of the richest clubs in the world.

For me, I would still follow Sunderland, the club means more to me than any owner. What I would say however is that the purity of the club is lost, any success is down to essentially winning the lottery and having owners that will essentially bank roll you until trophies are won. People will sit and say it doesn't matter and to look at Manchester City, but to me, that isn't what supporting Sunderland is about. Following Sunderland is the release from day to day work, all of the Corporate bullshit that goes with life in general. We know as Sunderland fans the chance of us winning a major trophy at Wembley is probably now highly unlikely, but we dream for the day that it might happen. What Newcastle have now, and will have forever, is just an expectancy for it to happen, no real dream chasing. I would almost miss us being shite if we had an expectancy of rocking up every Saturday and blowing teams off the park knowing it isn't the real club i follow.

I'm good mates with a Manchester City fan, as much as he loves watching some of the best players in the world, he still thinks it lacks substance.

You can have your bank rolled football clubs that can win trophy after trophy, year in, year out, but it will never be the same as your club defying all odds and somehow giving you one day in history that you never thought would be possible.
 
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TexasMackem said:
Agree about the parallels between the football clubs and cities. There's little point in trying to compete with them on an equal playing field when there are powers beyond our influence with zero appetite for levelling us up. However, I do think we struggle with our identity in Sunderland sometimes. It is possible for our city and football club to be successful with more divergent thinking on improving our own situation instead of envious sideways glances. None of that has changed with yesterday's news.

O/P is a raging fanny mind.
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Our lives are entirely unchanged, but we can certainly point and laugh at the coming disaster. As ever with them, a sniff of success and they're will find a way to crash it all. The fact the new owners have already blown 300 million quid and the fair play rules does impose some constraints, the coming reality check as ever with them will be highly watchable telly.
 
Today I've had....

"The British Empire has a worse human rights record"

"The British government swap weapons for oil with thr Saudis"

And, wait for it.

"They need a new business interest because less people are buying petrol and diesel cars " :lol:
 
johnhp said:
You must be logged on to see media items

Yep clearly separate from state...
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This deal has been going for over 18 months and we hardly heard a peep from the media on this, why have they waited until now? Could have easily put pressure on the EPL to fail it.
 
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