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maginpeace said:
Not sure what your point is here. We will still have the charities and food banks
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The point is quite clearly that passive investments in giant corporations are very different to active, controlling investments in 100+ year old institutions deeply rooted in their communities.

Nobody really has an emotional investment in Uber. 10s of thousands to hundreds of thousands or more have an emotional investment in football clubs.

Asking “I take it you don’t use x company’ is a really poor argument. They aren’t invested in those companies to rehabilitate their image and gloss over their human rights abuses.

The sad fact is many principled Newcastle fans are lapping it up.

Let’s not forget, when you donate to those food banks on match days you might well be feeding the very people displaced by the bombs of your club’s owners.

How does your match day pie taste now?
 

Sabre Mag said:
No, it'll be over time of course. The deep pockets allow them that I suppose.
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No, it'll be spent based on the income of NUFC, they'll have to invest off the pitch to generate income to allow spending on it.

The can't just spend what NUFC doesn't generate, we should know.
 
Most people put their football club before any morals/values they have. Sad but true and I include myself in that so I won't have a go at the mags for it. The way they treat woman and gays for example, I should be disgusted and totally distance myself from them...but I wouldn't.

I hope their name gets dragged through the mud in the media, they become hated and they run it like a business rather than spend a fortune every window. Then they get the worst of both worlds.
 
Sabre Mag said:
I think outside looking in its very easy to say you would stop supporting your club, maybe some would, and maybe some will. But fans have no say in this (if it happens). I can't turn my back on back on a club I have followed for 30 years because of something out of my control.
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Yes you could, if you felt strongly against what they stand for and their actions. There’s no way I would or could be behind safc if this happened. not a chance. They could fuck off for as long as the association lasted. But I appreciate not everyone will see it like this
 
Dilligaf60 said:
Good on you for selling your soul. You have no morals, no values, no conscience and you know it. Nothing matters to you except your own gratification, So you attempt to denigrate those that have. It’s as old as time. “I’m an arsehole so everyone else must be too”. Ten year olds put together a more reasoned argument than that. Like I said previously it’s your choice and yours alone, it doesn’t matter what any fucker else is doing it’s up to you. It’s the kind of person you are. Just admit it. Buying success in a football competition is more important to you than who the money comes from.
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That’s an interesting take. So I have no morals, values or conscience? Because of the club I support? Ok
 
Sabre Mag said:
I think outside looking in its very easy to say you would stop supporting your club, maybe some would, and maybe some will. But fans have no say in this (if it happens). I can't turn my back on back on a club I have followed for 30 years because of something out of my control.
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As long as you can square it with yourself mate. If you can ignore the fact that you are openly supporting a murderous regime, not to mention the anti gay stuff, lack of women's rights and what have you then fill your boots. 👍
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
do me a favour man :lol:

There were protests at Newcastle and people withdrawing their support from the club because Ashley was there. They were complaining about him utilising zero hours contracts, the local MP was twisting about his immoral ownership in the commons. There were ‘support the team, not the regime’ banners because of the owner’s nefarious methods.

But now it’s ‘we can’t help it who is in charge, I can’t not support my club’

Load of f***ing bollocks. The problem with NUFC and sections of the fanbase is that they want their cakes and to eat it. They only want a team to proud of but they also want super rich owners who’ll spend fortunes. They only want Ashley out because he’s bad for the club but they’ll happily support a murderous regime. They have great support despite how hard they’ve had it but they talk about how big their club is despite having won fuck all forever. All clubs are guilty of this, ours certainly included, but lord above, NUFC are the absolute masters of this tosh.
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Well put.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
do me a favour man :lol:

There were protests at Newcastle and people withdrawing their support from the club because Ashley was there. They were complaining about him utilising zero hours contracts, the local MP was twisting about his immoral ownership in the commons. There were ‘support the team, not the regime’ banners because of the owner’s nefarious methods.

But now it’s ‘we can’t help it who is in charge, I can’t not support my club’

Load of f***ing bollocks. The problem with NUFC and sections of the fanbase is that they want their cakes and to eat it. They only want a team to proud of but they also want super rich owners who’ll spend fortunes. They only want Ashley out because he’s bad for the club but they’ll happily support a murderous regime. They have great support despite how hard they’ve had it but they talk about how big their club is despite having won fuck all forever. All clubs are guilty of this, ours certainly included, but lord above, NUFC are the absolute masters of this tosh.
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Strange how it’s always Newcastle who are the worst for anything.
 
Bluepaul said:
No, it'll be spent based on the income of NUFC, they'll have to invest off the pitch to generate income to allow spending on it.

The can't just spend what NUFC doesn't generate, we should know.
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So first order of business needs to be increasing revenue to the facilitate the bigger spending.
 
Charmless Man said:
The point is quite clearly that passive investments in giant corporations are very different to active, controlling investments in 100+ year old institutions deeply rooted in their communities.

Nobody really has an emotional investment in Uber. 10s of thousands to hundreds of thousands or more have an emotional investment in football clubs.

Asking “I take it you don’t use x company’ is a really poor argument. They aren’t invested in those companies to rehabilitate their image and gloss over their human rights abuses.

The sad fact is many principled Newcastle fans are lapping it up.

Let’s not forget, when you donate to those food banks on match days you might well be feeding the very people displaced by the bombs of your club’s owners.

How does your match day pie taste now?
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Well I don’t have a match day pie, but that is a really good point otherwise.
 
maginpeace said:
Interesting. What do you base that on? The club I support? Very interesting. I’d argue I’m not and think my profession backs that up. But if it makes you feel better that everyone supports your rival club are horrific people, then carry on
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Based on the fact that you are constantly trolling this board and your user name is laughable.
 
Turnip from the Tip said:
Yes you could, if you felt strongly against what they stand for and their actions. There’s no way I would or could be behind safc if this happened. not a chance. They could fuck off for as long as the association lasted. But I appreciate not everyone will see it like this
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Well I could, but I won't is probably more accurate.
 
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