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maginpeace said:
Look guys, I’m not going to try and defend Saudi Arabia. They’re *****. There is no denying that.
When the original deal was agreed, I struggled with it and how I would react. In the end, I decided I would continue to support the team but I would do whatever was within my (very limited power) to protest the human rights abuses in SA while still supporting my team. You can argue the rights and wrongs of this, but I have come to terms with this.
If you would give up supporting Sunderland if PIF bought them, then you have my admiration. I’m a moral man but at the end of the day, I’m not going to turn away from the club I support. If that makes me a terrible human then so be it.
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You were already a terrible human so makes no difference really
 
sproates33 said:
It’s mad how people dont realise this, They arent owed by an individual, it’s a state that has thousands of operations worldwide.

They will absolutely improve Newcastle, to what degree is unknown. Its a massive risk with no footballing people involved and a regime that doesnt act normally.

Bizzare scenario all round.
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You would expect they'd want to at least compete with their equivalents at Man City and PSG, sportswashing is the aim.
 
maginpeace said:
Look guys, I’m not going to try and defend Saudi Arabia. They’re *****. There is no denying that.
When the original deal was agreed, I struggled with it and how I would react. In the end, I decided I would continue to support the team but I would do whatever was within my (very limited power) to protest the human rights abuses in SA while still supporting my team. You can argue the rights and wrongs of this, but I have come to terms with this.
If you would give up supporting Sunderland if PIF bought them, then you have my admiration. I’m a moral man but at the end of the day, I’m not going to turn away from the club I support. If that makes me a terrible human then so be it.
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Stopped reading.....
 
maginpeace said:
I don’t argue with any of that. PIF have significant investment in Disney, Facebook, Boeing etc. Just wondering if you boycott them as well.
Good on you for turning your back on the club you love if they are sold to someone with terrible morals.
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Good on you for selling your soul. You have no morals, no values, no conscience and you know it. Nothing matters to you except your own gratification, So you attempt to denigrate those that have. It’s as old as time. “I’m an arsehole so everyone else must be too”. Ten year olds put together a more reasoned argument than that. Like I said previously it’s your choice and yours alone, it doesn’t matter what any fucker else is doing it’s up to you. It’s the kind of person you are. Just admit it. Buying success in a football competition is more important to you than who the money comes from.
 
scott934 said:
You would expect they'd want to at least compete with their equivalents at Man City and PSG, sportswashing is the aim.
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Can't happen, the second it does the other Chairmen will demand action, lots of EPL clubs want to spend heavily but can't.

Leicester have rich owners but likely to sell some talent in Jan or next summer as their wage bill is now over 100% of their income.

The money isn't the issue.
 
maginpeace said:
Look guys, I’m not going to try and defend Saudi Arabia. They’re *****. There is no denying that.
When the original deal was agreed, I struggled with it and how I would react. In the end, I decided I would continue to support the team but I would do whatever was within my (very limited power) to protest the human rights abuses in SA while still supporting my team. You can argue the rights and wrongs of this, but I have come to terms with this.
If you would give up supporting Sunderland if PIF bought them, then you have my admiration. I’m a moral man but at the end of the day, I’m not going to turn away from the club I support. If that makes me a terrible human then so be it.
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Id wager we would continue supporting but do it in an understated manner.

Your lot will have the Saudi flags out, tea towels on.. the lot. Gonna be some extraordinary scenes :lol:
 
maginpeace said:
Look guys, I’m not going to try and defend Saudi Arabia. They’re *****. There is no denying that.
When the original deal was agreed, I struggled with it and how I would react. In the end, I decided I would continue to support the team but I would do whatever was within my (very limited power) to protest the human rights abuses in SA while still supporting my team. You can argue the rights and wrongs of this, but I have come to terms with this.
If you would give up supporting Sunderland if PIF bought them, then you have my admiration. I’m a moral man but at the end of the day, I’m not going to turn away from the club I support. If that makes me a terrible human then so be it.
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do me a favour man :lol:

There were protests at Newcastle and people withdrawing their support from the club because Ashley was there. They were complaining about him utilising zero hours contracts, the local MP was twisting about his immoral ownership in the commons. There were ‘support the team, not the regime’ banners because of the owner’s nefarious methods.

But now it’s ‘we can’t help it who is in charge, I can’t not support my club’

Load of f***ing bollocks. The problem with NUFC and sections of the fanbase is that they want their cakes and to eat it. They only want a team to proud of but they also want super rich owners who’ll spend fortunes. They only want Ashley out because he’s bad for the club but they’ll happily support a murderous regime. They have great support despite how hard they’ve had it but they talk about how big their club is despite having won fuck all forever. All clubs are guilty of this, ours certainly included, but lord above, NUFC are the absolute masters of this tosh.
 
Raker said:
Is shite news like, any self respecting Sunderland fan will dread the day these ***** do well. And if you think the Saudis won’t significantly improve them then you are mistaken.
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This. I can't believe how calm some posters are on here about the whole thing.
This will be catastrophic for SAFC, as the mags will hoover up most of the future generations of fans in the North East.
 
Gene Hunt said:
You were already a terrible human so makes no difference really
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Interesting. What do you base that on? The club I support? Very interesting. I’d argue I’m not and think my profession backs that up. But if it makes you feel better that everyone supports your rival club are horrific people, then carry on
 
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If its not state backed then how are they so rich.

Crown Prince texted boris to pass the deal ffs
 
In a country as tightly controlled as Saudi how can this be proved
Saudi rulers will have total control


It also came down to the Saudi-backed Public Investment Fund (PIF) – the state’s sovereign wealth fund overseen by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman – providing assurances to the Premier League that the Saudi state would not be involved in the day-to-day running of Newcastle.

The whole thing stinks

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