WestSussexMackem
Winger
It's Bournemouth that I don't understand, rumours that they were going to be fined for it and they've spent £17m on Afobe and Grabban and a loan deal for Iturbe which won't be cheap.
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Nufc and ffp
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Richie K
Striker
Give over man...you are sounding desperate. Both teams have bought a load of shite the last few years and are stuck with them.
Imagine a combined waste of money XI....Rodwell, Tarvin, Cabela, Graham, Mitrovic, Fletcher, Lens....there is £75million down the drain.
Banks
Striker
According to that website it should carry on though with your indepth reply
How am I sounding desperate? They are spending more than us and we have a chairman telling us wages wont allow us to spend more, they dont make 50m quid more than us.
Richie K
Striker
Exactly ffp is a load of shit that only Ellis sticks too. Others support it till the threat of relegation then they take action.
WestSussexMackem
Winger
Breaching FFP.
There have been no punishments agreed upon so no idea where you get they should be deducted points from.
Their total wage bill was £60m in 13/14 up to £72m iirc. I assume player wages therefore fell under the £60m limit and they could therefore increase wages by as much as they liked. Problem is these figures are way out of date.
Not sure why you mentioned transfer fees that has nothing to do with it.
Championship rules maybe I doubt it is the premier league sure I read their wage bill was about £17m!
Maximus
Striker
Are they really though? - seriously if they are then Ashley has played a blinder. Has it not just been "restructured" or cleverly moved?
One things is for certain Short cannot and would not try and play catchup.
How has he played a blinder?
Maximus
Striker
By getting a club that was so far in debt on an even keel with what I would consider few austerity measures. Yes, I know they've whinged the last few seasons, but since they came back up they seemed to have spent, OK, wasted loads (as have we) but we now seem poles apart.
I know if we were debt free at present I'd be over the moon.
They aren't debt free. They are just making a profit.
Maximus
Striker
Fair enough. That's what I queried originally - I'll not even begin to ask how that works
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Donnie
Guest
The £60m wage bill and £4m increase are only restrictions for clubs already losing money. What?, you seriously think they'd be restricting clubs with excess revenue who can afford big wages to £60m wage bills?
NUFC have made money for a few years now, and have only been spending money that's available in the bank for several years (so no money owed at all on players unlike most clubs). That's how they could afford to spend this summer. Ashley is hardly a sugar daddy, if they spend you can bet its because they have cash in reserve.
Also the whole £140 in debt thing, Ashley owes himself £140 does he (its actually £129m like but whatever)? The only thing that can ever effect is the selling price of the club. Ashley owns the club and the debt is to him, there's no interest and no point in ever calling it in as it would only cripple his own business. It was also from well before FFP so has no effect on that.
What's likely crippling Sunderland is that players you've bought in the past are still being paid for year by year. You'r likely still paying for players you signed in 2010 and onwards. Plus your wage bill, while lower then Newcastles is 67% of turnover.
NUFC have made money for a few years now, and have only been spending money that's available in the bank for several years (so no money owed at all on players unlike most clubs). That's how they could afford to spend this summer. Ashley is hardly a sugar daddy, if they spend you can bet its because they have cash in reserve.
Also the whole £140 in debt thing, Ashley owes himself £140 does he (its actually £129m like but whatever)?
The only thing that can ever effect is the selling price of the club. Ashley owns the club and the debt is to him, there's no interest and no point in ever calling it in as it would only cripple his own business. It was also from well before FFP so has no effect on that.What's likely crippling Sunderland is that players you've bought in the past are still being paid for year by year. You'r likely still paying for players you signed in 2010 and onwards. Plus your wage bill, while lower then Newcastles is 67% of turnover.
mackempt
Striker
Erm.......I've decided against swearing words. Congratulations on having that rotund pillar of society leading you to a bright future. You deserve each other!The £60m wage bill and £4m increase are only restrictions for clubs already losing money. What?, you seriously think they'd be restricting clubs with excess revenue who can afford big wages to £60m wage bills?
NUFC have made money for a few years now, and have only been spending money that's available in the bank for several years (so no money owed at all on players unlike most clubs). That's how they could afford to spend this summer. Ashley is hardly a sugar daddy, if they spend you can bet its because they have cash in reserve.
Also the whole £140 in debt thing, Ashley owes himself £140 does he (its actually £129m like but whatever)?
What's likely crippling Sunderland is that players you've bought in the past are still being paid for year by year. You'r likely still paying for players you signed in 2010 and onwards. Plus your wage bill, while lower then Newcastles is 67% of turnover.
Banks
Striker
I mentioned transfer fees as this will mean an increased wage bill, fair enough if they were under the 60m threshold but theres been no reports of this anywhere.
RedFlag1308
Winger
They don't care. The chairman will just pay the fine. It's worth it to have a good team. Luckily for us their injuries and poor scouting means they don't
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West Winger
Guest
They're making a profit. We're making £15-20 million a year in losses.
AndrewP
Striker
As a percentage of turnover ours is higher I think.
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