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MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
Please understand mate the RAWA and whoever put a lot of folks off as they suggested the spoke for everyone, when they did not.
if your lot were to say to SD and CM look we might have been a bit abrupt and we may be wrong can we talk around the table, it might just heal the bad feeling, and encourage other folks looking at us to see we are together.
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Excellent point Bob - there have been faults on all sides and we do need to come together to move on or get the sale.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
nah we had one incoming or did you miss that, and others to follow, but if your sensible to get summit done over the table, face to face, it is hard at this time.
I am not in control of time tho, so don't shoot the messenger
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Fair enough, in that case I wouldn't even say 'the next few weeks', there's nothing to say it might not be 4 months.
 
Gillythedilf said:
I’d say in my world no one gives a fuck or even listens to a bite of notice any of those fans groups/fanzines or what they come out with.
So why grown men who are multi-billionaires would even take a bite of notice really doesn’t register with me.
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You will be surprised how much credibility is given to the perceived views of the consumer through focus groups and the like.
 
Abu Dhabi Red and White said:
I am extremely disappointed that RAWA did not engage with its members over such a crucial issue and I think that you should take some personal responsibility for not consulting the SMB members that your represent.

If the above had happened, I might not have agreed with any outcome but I wouldn't have an axe to grind.

I've been to one branch meeting in my life to pay my subs - sorry that I can't help in your attack against the branches.
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Harsh asking the lad to take personal responsibility. As I remember it the fanzines wanted to do the statement and RAWA agreed to put their name to it. I don't think there was enough time for Ghandi Floss to poll the members (and iirc he wasn't even available to join the call they had where the decision was cascaded to the reps).

That's not to say the RAWA were blameless. I've said throughout that I think they should have kept their name off it and polled their members. They could have let the fanzines release their statement and then, when a few days had passed and it maybe wasn't top of the agenda any more, they could have added their weight behind it, which would have been more impactful if it came with the majority backing of the members. But to start talking about an individual (volunteer) taking responsibility for it is unnecessary. Mind, as unscientific as it would be, I'd love to go through the thread about the statement to see what percentage of fans were in agreement with it. I think at the time they judged the mood right, albeit they should have confirmed it, it's just that we then randomly actually won a few third tier matches and suddenly people voiced disagreement.
 
Abu Dhabi Red and White said:
I am extremely disappointed that RAWA did not engage with its members over such a crucial issue and I think that you should take some personal responsibility for not consulting the SMB members that your represent.



If the above had happened, I might not have agreed with any outcome but I wouldn't have an axe to grind.

I've been to one branch meeting in my life to pay my subs - sorry that I can't help in your attack against the branches.
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Like I’ve said on numerous occasions, I didn’t know about the statement until it came out, so it’s hard to take responsibility for something I didn’t know about.
I’ve also said I didn’t agree with the wording of the statement.

And I doubt the statement is the reason behind your bitterness towards the RAWA. I recall you having jibes towards them from the very beginning.
You even went as far as to derail a charity appeal thread the other month, to accuse them of keeping the money for themselves. Thankfully you were called out for being a tit by everyone else on it.
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Harsh asking the lad to take personal responsibility. As I remember it the fanzines wanted to do the statement and RAWA agreed to put their name to it. I don't think there was enough time for Ghandi Floss to poll the members (and iirc he wasn't even available to join the call they had where the decision was cascaded to the reps).

That's not to say the RAWA were blameless. I've said throughout that I think they should have kept their name off it and polled their members. They could have let the fanzines release their statement and then, when a few days had passed and it maybe wasn't top of the agenda any more, they could have added their weight behind it, which would have been more impactful if it came with the majority backing of the members. But to start talking about an individual (volunteer) taking responsibility for it is unnecessary. Mind, as unscientific as it would be, I'd love to go through the thread about the statement to see what percentage of fans were in agreement with it. I think at the time they judged the mood right, albeit they should have confirmed it, it's just that we then randomly actually won a few third tier matches and suddenly people voiced disagreement.
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he’s a bitter fanny, wouldn’t bother me arse with him mate
 
ironman said:
I get that but if he does not we are f cked
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From a footballing point of view Donald couldn’t care less. His interest is how much money he can make.

If it took him 5 years to get us promoted and make the money he’d be ok with it. If someone else could do it in 1 year he wouldn’t sell, the point being that he isn’t interested in what’s better for the fans and club, his own financial interests are more important.
 
MADBOB THE MAKEM said:
Please understand mate the RAWA and whoever put a lot of folks off as they suggested the spoke for everyone, when they did not.
if your lot were to say to SD and CM look we might have been a bit abrupt and we may be wrong can we talk around the table, it might just heal the bad feeling, and encourage other folks looking at us to see we are together.
just a suggestion
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The owners created the bad feeling through their contradictions and ineptitude since the summer, not the fans.
The deserve scrutiny, even though they obviously can’t take it. The fans fault narrative doesn’t wash with most. We all just want what’s best for the club.
 
Second point is there were stories that the takeover had collapsed in October when Ross was sacked. This is when SD’s tune changed to “looking at investment”. The RAWA thing came out well over two months later. It’s convenient for him to use the statement as his get out clause, some people will swallow owt.
 
Ghandi Floss said:
The owners created the bad feeling through their contradictions and ineptitude since the summer, not the fans.
The deserve scrutiny, even though they obviously can’t take it. The fans fault narrative doesn’t wash with most. We all just want what’s best for the club.
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It can’t be understated quite how disgusting the summer business was, talk about setting up to fail. The fact Donald thought that was enough to get him 100 points shows he’s a dreadful businessman when it comes to football.
 
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