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New Birmingham Stadium - 60k+

Hank Scorpio said:
Tbf mate, you don’t need success. You just need to offer something different.

A brand new stadium will almost certainly add 20,000 to their crowds and therefore they will be looking at c45,000 crowds. That alone should be enough to kick them on.

I know people will say “yeah but that still leaves 17,000 empty seats” but I suspect they will already be planning for that.

They’ve already said that the stadium will be the steepest in the country and therefore the idea will be to pack out the lower tiers and then cover the top tiers.
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Yeh it’s better to be ambitious I guess. They can certainly shift 45k if they crack on spending like they have until they get in the premier league. The place will sell out instantly for NFL or gigs.
 

wigwams said:
Yeh it’s better to be ambitious I guess. They can certainly shift 45k if they crack on spending like they have until they get in the premier league. The place will sell out instantly for NFL or gigs.
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Given Brady is involved, I suspect he has already been promised NFL games.

It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Wembley gets dumped by the NFL in the coming years.
 
It looks pretty good but as everyone is saying, where are those 30,000 extra fans going to come from?

I'd imagine they'll do what London Wasps did when they moved to Coventry or even West Ham with offering free tickets to tourists, schools and students.

For a working class club like Birmingham, it will completely flip the culture of the club on its head if half the ground is full of kids and international tourists.

Selling their soul for success and a bigger stadium than their far bigger neighbours.
 
Smiter said:
No data supported a 60k stadium for West Ham or Birmingham, it’s fear.
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Our 60k extended stadium won’t be in the capital of England or the countries second largest city.

It’s also in a region where 30-40% of the wider area decided to be smelly mags because Newcastle have had the rub of the green this last few decades.

We don’t need 60k
 
nelford_safc said:
Our 60k extended stadium won’t be in the capital of England or the countries second largest city.

It’s also in a region where 30-40% of the wider area decided to be smelly mags because Newcastle have had the rub of the green this last few decades.

We don’t need 60k
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I was in a crowd of probably 75,000 at a run down old ground called Roker Rark when few people had cars to get there or much money to spend and when hardly any women went to matches. Plus it was when Sunderland was in the second division. And that was just a sixth round Cup replay back in 1964. Not a game to win the league with top players from all around the world playing (Though Best Law and Charlton were platyng, to be fair).

Bring a winning team and you'd eaisiy fill the SOL. Plus do it often enough and all those rich plastic fans start arriving. They turn up at Liverpool for heaven's sake.
 
It looks pretty good but as everyone is saying, where are those 30,000 extra fans going to come from?

I'd imagine they'll do what London Wasps did when they moved to Coventry or even West Ham with offering free tickets to tourists, schools and students.

For a working class club like Birmingham, it will completely flip the culture of the club on its head if half the ground is full of kids and international tourists.

Selling their soul for success and a bigger stadium than their far bigger neighbours.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Given Brady is involved, I suspect he has already been promised NFL games.

It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Wembley gets dumped by the NFL in the coming years.
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I'd put money on angling for a franchise team in the UK. Birmingham Bulldogs or something, and London will still get some other team games.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
Tbf mate, you don’t need success. You just need to offer something different.

A brand new stadium will almost certainly add 20,000 to their crowds and therefore they will be looking at c45,000 crowds. That alone should be enough to kick them on.

I know people will say “yeah but that still leaves 17,000 empty seats” but I suspect they will already be planning for that.

They’ve already said that the stadium will be the steepest in the country and therefore the idea will be to pack out the lower tiers and then cover the top tiers.


There’s a lot of plastic fans in Birmingham mind mate. If they can stop bellends from supporting Liverpool etc, that will be a start
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As someone who's sat in a very empty stadium with areas closed off, it would kill the atmosphere. A long way from St Andrews working class, tough vibe.

They will fill it if they are in the PL as others do. As you say, the local Liverpool and Manchester United fans will be keen on watching the global superstars.
 
CheersMarra84 said:
I don’t know mate, you might be right. Just remember seeing an article saying Spurs had the contract, so thought it was just them.
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I suspect Khan (the owner of the jags and Fulham) will want to stay in London but I reckon long term they will go to Spurs.

Although Wembley is nice (and he tried to buy it a few years back) it must cost a fortune whereas Spurs will be cheaper and easier to fill (plus it’s got ridiculous hospitality options).

Iirc the Raiders (the team which Brady owns a 5% share) has been allocated Mexico for their “international territory” but it wouldn’t surprise me if they sign a long term agreement with Birmingham.
 
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