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New Birmingham Stadium - 60k+

tunstallhill said:
is the location of the ground not a massive put-off ?

i always get the feeling that these out-of-town stadiums are a massive turn off for young lads or dad/son duos who just want to leave their house, go to the pub, go to the match, then go back to the pub (or similar)

a bit of generalisation going on there, but as with anything, the more convenient it is and the less hurdles there are, the more people will come . Coventry's stadium just feels like an awful location. there are loads of examples in the lower leagues

if i were building a stadium i'd build it as close to town centres, built up areas, loads of housing, pubs, people, transport links etc.. are
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I suppose the idea if you build enough facilities to take 1000s of people, they’ll go before the match and stay after the match and drink / eat in the stadium area, where the club will own /get revenue from people renting the units. This is how spurs have done it, keep spending in the stadium where they can profit from it and the facilities can be used when it’s not match day as well. Spurs are raking in £5m + per match day
 

Boz33 said:
I suppose the idea if you build enough facilities to take 1000s of people, they’ll go before the match and stay after the match and drink / eat in the stadium area, where the club will own /get revenue from people renting the units. This is how spurs have done it, keep spending in the stadium where they can profit from it and the facilities can be used when it’s not match day as well. Spurs are raking in £5m + per match day
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maybe that is the future, certainly for teams like spurs playing at the top end of the top league in the middle of the biggest city in the country .

but for the likes of coventry, they can't rely on that tourism/day tripper element. for me, clubs like coventry (and sunderland) rely almost entirely on their core supporters, fans who have been going for generations of the same family, with their own routines etc...

for me, most fans like this follow a pattern of going as a child with dads/uncles/friends parents until they get to an age where they can start going alone (15,16 etc..) they spend a few years going to the match as part of their growing up (starting to drink, work, earn money) eventually getting older and calming down and hopefully taking their own children and so the cycle continues

for the likes of coventry, birmingham, sunderland etc... if you break this cycle then you are playing with fire. its alright for spurs and west ham and man city where you have a constant, seemingly never ending supply of tourists and day trippers, but for normal clubs they need to protect this precious core. moving stadiums to a retail park next to a motorway junction on the edge of town with unnafordable tickets and soulless sanitised atmospheres isn't going to attract groups of young people. and so the cycle is broken.

in my opinion
 
tunstallhill said:
maybe that is the future, certainly for teams like spurs playing at the top end of the top league in the middle of the biggest city in the country .

but for the likes of coventry, they can't rely on that tourism/day tripper element. for me, clubs like coventry (and sunderland) rely almost entirely on their core supporters, fans who have been going for generations of the same family, with their own routines etc...

for me, most fans like this follow a pattern of going as a child with dads/uncles/friends parents until they get to an age where they can start going alone (15,16 etc..) they spend a few years going to the match as part of their growing up (starting to drink, work, earn money) eventually getting older and calming down and hopefully taking their own children and so the cycle continues

for the likes of coventry, birmingham, sunderland etc... if you break this cycle then you are playing with fire. its alright for spurs and west ham and man city where you have a constant, seemingly never ending supply of tourists and day trippers, but for normal clubs they need to protect this precious core. moving stadiums to a retail park next to a motorway junction on the edge of town with unnafordable tickets and soulless sanitised atmospheres isn't going to attract groups of young people. and so the cycle is broken.

in my opinion
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All depends what facilities are at the stadium, have enough pubs or eateries and it becomes a new destination area to socialise.
The city centre grounds would work best obviously, but even getting more events on and utilising the stadium more than say 30 days a year could well be worth it to many clubs. Especially in theworld of income is king.
We made 26m or so quid total last accounts, if the club could could say make another 5-10m a year from having more facilities, places where people spend that’s a huge increase.
Read somewhere the mags are building a stack beside st James metro, that will be a pretty good money earner as it’ll make money year round all adding to the pot
 
Boz33 said:
I suppose the idea if you build enough facilities to take 1000s of people, they’ll go before the match and stay after the match and drink / eat in the stadium area, where the club will own /get revenue from people renting the units. This is how spurs have done it, keep spending in the stadium where they can profit from it and the facilities can be used when it’s not match day as well. Spurs are raking in £5m + per match day
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yeah i think the view is now that fans spend quite a bit on matchday..but not much of it at the ground..yet the club are the reason they are out and about..so if they can get them to spend in the ground what they otherwise spend in the pub near the ground it helps the club..
and if the stadiums can be used multiple days a year//all the better
 
tunstallhill said:
is the location of the ground not a massive put-off ?

i always get the feeling that these out-of-town stadiums are a massive turn off for young lads or dad/son duos who just want to leave their house, go to the pub, go to the match, then go back to the pub (or similar)

a bit of generalisation going on there, but as with anything, the more convenient it is and the less hurdles there are, the more people will come . Coventry's stadium just feels like an awful location. there are loads of examples in the lower leagues

if i were building a stadium i'd build it as close to town centres, built up areas, loads of housing, pubs, people, transport links etc.. are
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Would have been utter shit if wed took the nissan option.
 
I’ve no idea of the geography of the West Midlands but they’re currently about 15 mins from the main station in Brum and I presume similar from all the bus routes in the area. Messing with that is madness if indeed that’s what they’re doing.
It’d be kid for a quid for a while I imagine if they build it where they currently are so god knows how they’ll fill a 60000 seater if it’s further out where it’s more difficult for kids to access than jumping on their local bus into town.
Murray and SAFC got lucky when Wearmouth shut. His choices of Nissan then Doxy Park would’ve ruined us crowd wise.
 
riffraff said:
I’ve no idea of the geography of the West Midlands but they’re currently about 15 mins from the main station in Brum and I presume similar from all the bus routes in the area. Messing with that is madness if indeed that’s what they’re doing.
It’d be kid for a quid for a while I imagine if they build it where they currently are so god knows how they’ll fill a 60000 seater if it’s further out where it’s more difficult for kids to access than jumping on their local bus into town.
Murray and SAFC got lucky when Wearmouth shut. His choices of Nissan then Doxy Park would’ve ruined us crowd wise.
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Its only about half a mile from where they currently are.
 
This won’t be built. I have no idea why people want to pretend to be involved in a project that is never going to happen, it’s absolutely pointless!
 
They only need look at the first two or three episodes of STID to see how much harder it is to go up from League One than it is to go down from the Championship - or stay up in it. The world of football outside of League One does it a great disservice. People believe in the propaganda that League One is easy and full of very poor quality sides full of very poor quality talent. League One is a very hard, competitive league. It was not easy at all for us to go up at all. It took us about 5 attempts to go up.

Burton, Portsmouth, Coventry City, Fleetwood Town and Southend United all beat us in our first season. We lost four more (9) in the following season to Peterborough Utd, Lincoln City, Wycombe Wanderers, Shrewsbury Town, Burton, Gillingham, Portsmouth, Coventry City and Gillingham both in the last two games before the COVID lockdown.

If BCFC think it will be a piece of piss they are mistaken.
 
tunstallhill said:
is the location of the ground not a massive put-off ?

i always get the feeling that these out-of-town stadiums are a massive turn off for young lads or dad/son duos who just want to leave their house, go to the pub, go to the match, then go back to the pub (or similar)

a bit of generalisation going on there, but as with anything, the more convenient it is and the less hurdles there are, the more people will come . Coventry's stadium just feels like an awful location. there are loads of examples in the lower leagues

if i were building a stadium i'd build it as close to town centres, built up areas, loads of housing, pubs, people, transport links etc.. are
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Each Team and land is different therefore I disagree with you
 
15th in the Championship.

Not the 'party their way to promotion' season plenty of their supporters thought they'd be in for this season.

The guts of £10m spent on Kyogo alone who has 0 goals in 11.

Shame. :lol:
 
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