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More erasing of history...


Stella Spark said:
People do care though
A country with such a rich and proud history as ours, scrapping historical characters - that play an important role in the story of our nation, and who we are - from bank notes, to avoid angering the anti-Britain, BLM, Pro-Palistine, Pro-Iran etc etc knackers that we've filled our country with.

Scandalous really.
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And those that cared voted. And more cared about animals
 
Billie Cheemus said:
I’m not the one accusing people of erasing history - you are, yet you only seem interested in preserving the history that you like?

Recognising only the good people / good acts and ignoring the bad = erasing history

Putting a couple of birds on the back of a note = not altering history in the slightest
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No one, not a single country celebrates bad things. Youre just coming up with nonsense.
Shakespeare, Turing deserve recognition, not removing.
 
Tadger said:
I'd make the argument that for a long time that's how we have defined ourselves and it hasn't done us much good in the long run.

We don't own a quarter of the globe anymore and now more people are asking the question if it was objectively such a good thing when we did.
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The lack of infanticide, widow burning, cannibalism, and slavery - might suggest a lot of it was a good thing
 
johnlights said:
No one, not a single country celebrates bad things. Youre just coming up with nonsense.
Shakespeare, Turing deserve recognition, not removing.
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Absolutely untrue. Ireland celebrates it's great losses. We consider it crass to be such ungracious winners. Took the rugby team a long time and a lot of work to accept it was actually OK to be a winner and not the romantic loser.
 
Tadger said:
He did, but mainly for pragmatic wartime reasons than any kind of morality or principle.

Churchill was a staunch believer in British Imperialism and most of what went with it.
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And if he hasn't have been, your life would/could have been so different.
Enjoy wallowing in your performative guilt though.
 
johnlights said:
No one, not a single country celebrates bad things. Youre just coming up with nonsense.
Shakespeare, Turing deserve recognition, not removing.
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Your argument is all over the place

The historical figures get changed, so at some point 'removed'
Shakespeare was removed about 30 years ago & replaced by Faraday who in turn was replaced by Elgar a few years later. They were recognised by being on the note in the first place. We're now going to celebrate wildlife, then in 50 years they might change to landmarks.
 
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johnlights said:
No. I wanted to talk about bank notes.
Then, as usual, when the argument is sound, distractions are introduced to muddy the pond.
Start a thread about the British Empire.
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No you wanted to start a thread about erasing history... that is not what happens if Churchill is voted by the public to be removed from a bank note.
 
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