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More DRS In This Winter's Ashes

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Should be having less, not more. Takes enough time out of the game as it is. Also LBWs shouldn't be given unless all of the ball is hitting the stumps.
 
chunkylover53 said:
DRS is a great idea but its badly used

Umpires call is ridiculous frankly. If its out, it's out. If its not, it's not
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On the face of it that makes a lot of sense, but there is actually a good reason why Umpires call should remain.

If teams can query every LBW decision and have it over ruled because the ball is clipping the wicket, then there will by definition be a lot more LBW dismissals than there were previously. Games will tend to be shorter because of this, bowlers figures will tend to be better and batsmens averages will tend to be worse. This would make comparing players figures across the generations difficult as it would clearly be more difficult to post a test match average of say 50 under the new system than under the old. The umpires call rule also stops some of the frivolous referrals.
 
hudson88 said:
If they want to keep umpires call, so be it. But if it goes to umpires call you should be allowed to retain your appeal
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When DRS was introduced that was my opinion too, but if that rule was introduced I think it would lead to a hell of a lot more "worth a try" reviews where the reviewer was sure enough that the worst case scenario was umpires call.

What I would like to see is a change to the amount of the ball hitting the stumps for umpires call, fair enough building in a margin for error, but the need for more than half the ball to be hitting the stumps is too much. I'd say that any more than 20% of the ball hitting the stumps covers the margin for error with the system.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
On the face of it that makes a lot of sense, but there is actually a good reason why Umpires call should remain.

If teams can query every LBW decision and have it over ruled because the ball is clipping the wicket, then there will by definition be a lot more LBW dismissals than there were previously. Games will tend to be shorter because of this, bowlers figures will tend to be better and batsmens averages will tend to be worse. This would make comparing players figures across the generations difficult as it would clearly be more difficult to post a test match average of say 50 under the new system than under the old. The umpires call rule also stops some of the frivolous referrals.
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I agree

But just tighten the requirement to build in probability of technology failure

51% of ball hitting = out
49% = not out

Or something similar

Umpires call allows gaming of the system, 2 identical balls could have very different outcomes....and at the end of the day it's out or not out
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
This would make comparing players figures across the generations difficult as it would clearly be more difficult to post a test match average of say 50 under the new system than under the old. The umpires call rule also stops some of the frivolous referrals.
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Comparisons are already more difficult: shorter boundaries, covered pitches, heavier bats, more protection, the presence of Bangladesh/Zimbabwe.

Is DRS about eliminating obvious errors, reaching the correct decision more often or supporting the onfield umpires? At present, it's doing none of those things. Either scrap it and have a true 'umpire's call' or keep it and eliminate umpire's call altogether.

Perhaps the thing to do is to reduce the number of referrals down to one so that it is saved for the genuine howler.
 
chunkylover53 said:
I agree

But just tighten the requirement to build in probability of technology failure

51% of ball hitting = out
49% = not out

Or something similar

Umpires call allows gaming of the system, 2 identical balls could have very different outcomes....and at the end of the day it's out or not out
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this all day long, but i think less is more.. 2 referrals for an innings whether you correctly call them or not, just two full stop. very rarely will there be 1 howler in an innings let alone 2... and it will eliminate the chancers, i hate when they review just to try their hand it should be for clearly wrong calls only, not 50/50 calls where they are just gambling
 
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