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Methven at the match

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Grumpy Old Man said:
People. They only got the chance to buy the club because Short was one of Methven's clients. Networking is a skill that is hammered into Etonians even more than it in other public schools. The problem with the way it's done there is to treat the "lower orders" as if they were an amorphous blob, which explains a lot of his behaviour, without in way excusing it. Methven (like all OE's is a schmoozer), and sometimes you need that schmooze to get people to talk to you who may otherwise not have. It's all part of the act, but if it gets us the possibility of better sponsorships as we get back to where we need to be .....
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Our principle sponsor is a local firm who pay next to fuck all. How on earth can you say he’s helped with sponsorship when the very people that sponsor us are the people he is on record as saying “are massively uneducated in business terms”.
 
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Shirley Shammel said:
Our principle sponsor is a local firm who pays next to fuck all. How on earth can you say he’s helped with sponsorship when the very people that sponsor us are the people he is on record as saying “are massively uneducated in business terms”.
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I said future sponsorship. He has the contacts; all OE's do. But he's not a closer; he can do the intros, and that's about it. The rest was down to Donald. The dynamic between them was interesting, and not in a good way. It was clear to me that there was a major falling out between them, especially after the playoffs. But I also know he was very unhappy with the way the whole Maja thing was handled. I get the impression Sartori was also less than impressed by the way Donald was running things. The hope is that KLD can use any contacts more effectively. How feasible that is will be driven by on-field performance. Big-money sponsors aren't attracted to L1 clubs, even if they're getting 30k gates, because there's little or no national coverage.

Something else about the OE method. Anyone they meet will be instantly assessed as to whether they are potentially useful or a threat to them or their ambitions. Both those groups will be schmoozed. Everyone else is dismissed as an irrelevance.
 
Gillythedilf said:
To be fair people complain about this part ownership constantly.If they complain when we are getting beat then it’s “couldn’t wait to jump on the clubs back after a few bad results”

The subject is a constant fly in the ointment and needs putting to bed as it’s poisonous.Only one way to solve it aswell ;everyone cut there losses and move on as it’ll start turning the fan base against KLD in the end.
I believe SD and CM have done some good things for the club since coming in but when your paying customers don’t like you at all then the writing is on the wall and the longer it goes on the more decremental it becomes for all.Regardless if we go up to the top flight in two consecutive promotions for argument’s sake this fan base will never forget or forgive CM or SD for whatever grudge they hold.
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Alreet Charlie lad. It’s a good job you got in the ground early. Had you of been an hour later it wouldn’t of ended well. Tory wanker.
 
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Red and white TID said:
You think people in football will take any notice of Charlie Metvhen, haway man, comeback into the real world, I have spoken to people who know you, who say you are real nice man.
You are obviously a fairly intelligent guy.
Why do you constantly defend these people.
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He's not defending "these people", he's pointing out how things work in the real world, as opposed to the conspiracy theory vipers nest of ignorance and spite that this place can be.
 
TravellingMackem said:
Takeover in name only
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How do you reckon that? The approach to recruitment in the summer has been wholly different for a start. Surely that is a sign that things have changed?

A man who owns part of our club attending games doesn’t mean he is involved in the day to day running of it. At worst he is checking in on his investment, at best he actually likes us and wants us to do well and was turning up to support us.
 
Lucky1985 said:
How do you reckon that? The approach to recruitment in the summer has been wholly different for a start. Surely that is a sign that things have changed?

A man who owns part of our club attending games doesn’t mean he is involved in the day to day running of it. At worst he is checking in on his investment, at best he actually likes us and wants us to do well and was turning up to support us.
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Everything those useless twats did was fucked off within weeks of KLD taking over
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I said future sponsorship. He has the contacts; all OE's do. But he's not a closer; he can do the intros, and that's about it. The rest was down to Donald. The dynamic between them was interesting, and not in a good way. It was clear to me that there was a major falling out between them, especially after the playoffs. But I also know he was very unhappy with the way the whole Maja thing was handled. I get the impression Sartori was also less than impressed by the way Donald was running things. The hope is that KLD can use any contacts more effectively. How feasible that is will be driven by on-field performance. Big-money sponsors aren't attracted to L1 clubs, even if they're getting 30k gates, because there's little or no national coverage.

Something else about the OE method. Anyone they meet will be instantly assessed as to whether they are potentially useful or a threat to them or their ambitions. Both those groups will be schmoozed. Everyone else is dismissed as an irrelevance.
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Yeah but he’s been unable to attract any decent sponsors in the 4 years he’s been here and nor has Donald. Their level of attracting sponsorship is gleefully posting about “partnerships” with local firms on the club website and selling membership for the business club for a grand. It’s small time as fuck. Surely men with “contacts” could have done better than that? They can’t even gets shirts out for sale this year or printed season cards. Everything commercially seems to be as worse as it’s ever been. With cost cutting still at the forefront and everything that’s not profitable being kiboshed for example cash turnstiles, ladies shirts and opening the club shop.

The Sheffield Wednesday game for example could be one way of attracting more revenue. The two biggest clubs in the league by far and instead of going for a bumper crowd like we normally get at Xmas time they’re making it as difficult for people to get tickets as possible and the crowd is likely to be just a little over average. That’s not demonstrating any business skill to me.
 
Lucky1985 said:
How do you reckon that? The approach to recruitment in the summer has been wholly different for a start. Surely that is a sign that things have changed?

A man who owns part of our club attending games doesn’t mean he is involved in the day to day running of it. At worst he is checking in on his investment, at best he actually likes us and wants us to do well and was turning up to support us.
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I admire your optimism. I, however, won’t be content while those corporate thieves are still loitering around the club
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
People. They only got the chance to buy the club because Short was one of Methven's clients. Networking is a skill that is hammered into Etonians even more than it in other public schools. The problem with the way it's done there is to treat the "lower orders" as if they were an amorphous blob, which explains a lot of his behaviour, without in way excusing it. Methven (like all OE's is a schmoozer), and sometimes you need that schmooze to get people to talk to you who may otherwise not have. It's all part of the act, but if it gets us the possibility of better sponsorships as we get back to where we need to be .....
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Genghis Khan built an empire on Meritocracy. I prefer that model TBH.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
I said future sponsorship. He has the contacts; all OE's do. But he's not a closer; he can do the intros, and that's about it. The rest was down to Donald. The dynamic between them was interesting, and not in a good way. It was clear to me that there was a major falling out between them, especially after the playoffs. But I also know he was very unhappy with the way the whole Maja thing was handled. I get the impression Sartori was also less than impressed by the way Donald was running things. The hope is that KLD can use any contacts more effectively. How feasible that is will be driven by on-field performance. Big-money sponsors aren't attracted to L1 clubs, even if they're getting 30k gates, because there's little or no national coverage.

Something else about the OE method. Anyone they meet will be instantly assessed as to whether they are potentially useful or a threat to them or their ambitions. Both those groups will be schmoozed. Everyone else is dismissed as an irrelevance.
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Ultimately what will be needed for lucrative sponsorship deals is a team in the spotlight i.e. the premier league /possibly the upper end of the championship.

Get ourselves into that position and any senior representative should be able to sell the club relatively easily. At present, as we can see, we're only attractive to local businesses.

I think you are overplaying the role and contribution methven can offer us, and not for the first time.

Hes a devisive figure, as proven by this thread. It would be far better for the club for him to sell his remaining stake.
 
BumbleBee said:
Genghis Khan built an empire on Meritocracy. I prefer that model TBH.
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Genghis Khan has been very unfairly treated by history in general. For his time, he was incredibly enlightened.
North Yorks Mackem said:
Ultimately what will be needed for lucrative sponsorship deals is a team in the spotlight i.e. the premier league /possibly the upper end of the championship.

Get ourselves into that position and any senior representative should be able to sell the club relatively easily. At present, as we can see, we're only attractive to local businesses.

I think you are overplaying the role and contribution methven can offer us, and not for the first time.

Hes a devisive figure, as proven by this thread. It would be far better for the club for him to sell his remaining stake.
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I'm not denying your last sentence. I also passed no comment on his effectiveness. The sheer number of his contacts though is a fact.

There's a lot of crap spoken about what I think about him. My view has always been that he's all right as someone to have a chat with over a drink. But I don't trust him as far as I could throw him. I wouldn't be surprised if he thought exactly the same about me.
 
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