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From the blue bell facebook

Following today’s easing of the local lockdown rules the new guidance from Sunderland City Council is below.
Following dialog with the council and a review of our extensive measures in place we are now able to allow entry to mixed households, in no more than a group of 6. Each individual household must log into the new NHS Test & Trace, or fill in one of our slips.
Is this true? I can't see anything on the council website but I'm at work and can't have a proper look
 
Contradicts the faqs document on the council website which was updated only yesterday
New Covid-19 restrictions for our region - 17 September - Sunderland City Council

Not saying it's not true but would like to see it on an official website rather than a pubs Facebook page
Residents are also advised to adhere to the following guidance to further reduce rates of infection:
• Residents should not socialise with other people outside of their own households or support bubble in all public venues.

This hasn’t changed since day one. I’ll allow others to debate the morality of whether or not you follow guidance.

You are only banned from socialising in private homes or gardens.
 
From the blue bell facebook

Following today’s easing of the local lockdown rules the new guidance from Sunderland City Council is below.
Following dialog with the council and a review of our extensive measures in place we are now able to allow entry to mixed households, in no more than a group of 6. Each individual household must log into the new NHS Test & Trace, or fill in one of our slips.

the council released anything saying as much? cant see anything on their website
 
the council released anything saying as much? cant see anything on their website
Latest advice just sends you to the government website.
They aren’t saying anything new.
  • follow the limits on the number of other people you should meet with as a group (it will be illegal to be in a group of more than six from outside of your household or support bubble). If your household and/or support bubble is larger than 6 people, this is your largest permitted group and you cannot meet as a group with any additional people.
 
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Seems pubs don't even know. One place reckons places in local lockdown, like us, can't have six mixing as it's only advisory in places not under extra restrictions (saying here it's actual rules/law). They're wrong like but they were turfing people on those grounds, and saying other pubs would get done.
 
Said a few days ago that the council need to make an announcement about exactly what is, and what isn't, allowed for pubs and clubs under these new local lockdown rules.

It would remove all the confusion and stop different places coming up with their own interpretations.

Really can't understand why they don't do this.

And before anyone comes back with 'they are clear', ' only an idiot...' etc, it's obvious that they aren't clear because we wouldn't have this situation if they were.
 
Said a few days ago that the council need to make an announcement about exactly what is, and what isn't, allowed for pubs and clubs under these new local lockdown rules.

It would remove all the confusion and stop different places coming up with their own interpretations.

Really can't understand why they don't do this.

And before anyone comes back with 'they are clear', ' only an idiot...' etc, it's obvious that they aren't clear because we wouldn't have this situation if they were.
 
Sorry. I thought the 'etc' in my original post would have precluded someone posting this. Forgot I was dealing with the SMB.

I should have said 'and also don't print the guidelines on the Sunderland web page because they're obviously not clear enough either'.

People are saying they have been told one thing by the council yet the government and Sunderland web pages seem to say something else. Either someone is telling porkies or the message isn't clear enough.

They therefore need to clarify the situation once and for all and put the issue to bed.
 
This is the copy and paste from gov website for the local restrictions the NE is under atm relevent to pubs. main bits in bold

From Monday 14 September, when meeting friends and family you do not live with (or have formed a support bubble with) you must not meet in a group of more than 6. Further detail can be found in the guidance for meeting others safely, including associated exemptions. In the affected local area, you must not meet or host people you do not live with in private homes or gardens unless they are in your support bubble. In addition to these restrictions, we advise that you should not:

  • socialise with people you do not live with, unless they’re in your support bubble, in any public venue. This applies to inside and outside of the affected areas. Examples of public venues include pubs, restaurants, cafes, shops, places of worship, community centres, leisure and entertainment venues, or visitor attractions.
So advise is not banned, but im sure is frowned upon by council, who administer the license, and those on the moral high ground.

This next bit comes from Gov website(in red link above) meeting others safely, which covers England

3. Rules in other venues and activities
As well as the exemptions above, venues following COVID-19 Secure guidelines will be able to continue to host more people in total – such as religious services in places of worship – but no one should mix in a group of greater than 6. This includes places like a pub, shop, leisure venue, restaurant or place of worship. When you visit one of these places you should:

  • follow the limits on the number of other people you should meet with as a group – no more than 6 people unless you all live together (or are in the same support bubble)
  • avoid social interaction with anyone outside the group you are with, even if you see other people you know
  • provide your contact details to the organiser so that you can be contacted if needed by the NHS Test and Trace programme

PS Full websites here- North East of England: local restrictions
Coronavirus (COVID-19): Meeting with others safely (social distancing)
 
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So after last weekends FB copy n paste debacle, the council, rather than sanctioning pubs, have given in and allowed it.

So tomorrow, rather than stand in the pissing rain outside my parents garden gate, I just take them to the pub aye :rolleyes:
Ffs man
 
So after last weekends FB copy n paste debacle, the council, rather than sanctioning pubs, have given in and allowed it.

So tomorrow, rather than stand in the pissing rain outside my parents garden gate, I just take them to the pub aye :rolleyes:
Ffs man

the pubs are talking shite man.

government should have made it law but it’s still a shit trick by the pubs misleading people that don't understand the word shouldn’t.
 
the pubs are talking shite man.

government should have made it law but it’s still a shit trick by the pubs misleading people that don't understand the word shouldn’t.
We'll see mate. Last week's situation with the pubs seemed callous. This next set of messages, who knows, but last week they were all stating what was technically right ....'its advisory.'

Tonight they all seem to be quoting the council.

IF these ones are talking bollocks but saying they were told by council, then they're lying (as opposed to last week - a technicality).
If they're lying there should be a tonne of bricks on them
 
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