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Letwin shows Torys true colours.

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JonnotheMackem said:
Aye, and it is a truth universally acknowledged that the best kinds of protests are the ones where you can nick yourself a new telly while you're at it.
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There is no doubt that arseholes will (and have) taken advantage of unrest to be even bigger arseholes. That doesn't mean there aren't problems in the areas that may be factors in there being unrest. As a region we ought to remember what was said about our people in 1985.
 
Cockney Mackem said:
No, you've completely ducked out of the central argument that what Letwin has said is racist. He was, it is argued, specifically saying that black people are less moral, more criminal and more likely to riot than white people, and furthermore giving them any form of assistance towards jobs or other types of support would only lead to more criminal behaviour. You haven't said anything to suggest that Letwin has been misinterpreted, you've just said you agree with him. You can see, surely how that might be difficult to interpret?
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That's it in a nutshell, he needs to go. Plus it goes to show how out of touch the Tories were/are because disco was dead in 1985.
 
smoker said:
In 1985, Jeremy Corbyn was best mates with the IRA, yet that is a non-story in the OP's considered opinion.
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It takes a considerable degree of ignorance, or disingenuity, to conflate Corbyn and Letwin's activities in the 1980s. Worth a slow handclap either way.
 
Cockney Mackem said:
There is no doubt that arseholes will (and have) taken advantage of unrest to be even bigger arseholes. That doesn't mean there aren't problems in the areas that may be factors in there being unrest. As a region we ought to remember what was said about our people in 1985.
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Precisely, but that actually sizeable number of arseholes made it all about them which took everything away from what sparked the protests in the first place.
 
Hulkster said:
He's an idiot.

Rioting is obviously a sign of strong moral values.
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There have been plenty of examples throughout history of people taking to the streets when they are denied their rights or representation through legitimate means. Were they all morally reprehensible?

JonnotheMackem said:
Precisely, but that actually sizeable number of arseholes made it all about them which took everything away from what sparked the protests in the first place.
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That's not the fault of the people who wanted a legitimate riot though :)
 
JonnotheMackem said:
Precisely, but that actually sizeable number of arseholes made it all about them which took everything away from what sparked the protests in the first place.
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I agree but I think that some will have been normal, everyday people who ended up rioting because of the anger about the social conditions they lived and how they were mistreated because of institutional racism that existed, Letwin's comments reflect this as a fact.
It was not justified for these that I mentioned to riot but very understandable that they did so in those's times. Any community that faces years/decades of neglect and division will eventually get to a point where they have finally had enough and react.
 
LeicesterMackem said:
There have been plenty of examples throughout history of people taking to the streets when they are denied their rights or representation through legitimate means. Were they all morally reprehensible?


That's not the fault of the people who wanted a legitimate riot though :)
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Didn't you have an appearance in front of the beak for confusing riot and protest?
 
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