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Lee Johnson

Maravilla said:
The squad Johnson had in 21/22 even before Batth, Clarke and Roberts arrived in January was a better squad than Ross had in 2018/19 I reckon.
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No denying Johnson had a relatively good squad to deal with, which is the reason why we got promoted under Neil...who was just a level above the rest of the previous managers. I was just referring to Ross' first season where there is no denying for me he should have got us promoted whether that was top 2 or through play-offs with the calibre of squad we had.
 

Arcas Left Peg said:
I will forever love Lee Johnson for being incompetent enough to deliver the 6-0 drubbing at Bolton which was, arguably, the entire turning point in which our current success lies.

That's it though, and there is some very weird revisionism going on here for a truly awful manager
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I get your point, and I'm not trying to stick up for Brent boy that much, but I think Johnson would have still had a good chance of getting us promoted still if that means anything to my crap argument for Lee :lol:
 
YES WE GYAN said:
Spot on. Johnson got us moving in the right direction at the start of our upwards journey. We were dreadful on occasion, but people forget that we finished lower in the table under Neil than we were when Johnson was sacked.
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We won more points per game under Alex Neil that season than we did Lee Johnson. We had played four games more than Wigan and two more than Rotherham and were still behind them when that tit finally got sacked far later than he should have done.

Our record away from home that season whilst he was in charge;

W - 2-1 MK Dons
L - 0-1 Burton
D - 2-2 Fleetwood
L - 0-4 Portsmouth
W - 2-1 Gillingham
W - 4-0 Crewe
L - 1-5 Rotherham
L - 0-3 Sheffield Wednesday
D - 1-1 Shrewsbury
W - 2-1 Cambridge
D - 1-1 Ipswich
W - 3-0 Doncaster
D - 3-3 Wycombe
D - 1-1 Accrington
L - 6-0 Bolton

In fifteen games he won five against teams that finished 24th, 22nd, 21st, 14th and 3rd. Only top half team there was MK Dons right at the start of the season who won two out of their first six. Five wins and 30 goals conceded in 15 games for a team trying to get promoted :lol: It's all just really great stuff.

Impossible to see anything other than promotion especially if you ignore the pathetic end to the previous season under him that saw us go from three points off top with two games in hand with nine games remaining to then finishing 10 points off 2nd and 12 points off top.

Bloke was and presumably still is a f***ing clown.
 
Mowbray Boss Gilet said:
Some will criticise your opinion, but if he wasn't all Brent then he wouldn't be made out anywhere near as bad as he is.

Yes we progressed after him, but we got lucky in hindsight with Alex Neil who has proven before and after that he is a top level championship manager. Some of the results under Johnson were minging but we weren't in that bad of a position table wise when he got sacked.

Did Johnson deserved to get sacked? At the time probably yes due to the calamity results, but in terms of managers we had in that period, he was one of the better ones?
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None of them were good and none of them were anywhere near the standard needed to manage Sunderland even in league one. Alex Neil came in and showed the difference in a competent manager and incompetent ones within the space of weeks.

Johnson belongs to a totally dreadful era in Sunderland’s history. Some of the very darkest days were under his leadership. The hammerings we took away from home with him at the helm were humiliating.
 
NorthumberlandMackem said:
Got Lommel SK promoted. Done a really good job there.

Maybe a job back in the EFL for him somewhere down the line.

Got a soft spot for the club, having went out and visited the club for work and met Steve Bould who was Head Coach at the time.

LJ got a lot of stick (harsh imo) for his tenure at Sunderland but I do believe, he turned the oil tanker in the right direction after Jack Ross and Parkys disastrous spells. Thankful Alex Neil came in and got the job done.

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Absolutley useless another one of them managers that shouldnt of been anywhere this club bad times
 
When the younger generation of our fanbase bring kids into this world its probably you don`t mention this utter fraud, man was an absolute arsehole
 
Everyone is forgetting that under him we broke our Wembley hoodoo. I think that Salford result was monumental. It lifted a huge weight off our shoulders for the following play off final.
 
NorthumberlandMackem said:
Agreed but I thought his tenure was more positive than Jack Ross and Parky.

We arguably played more positive attacking football as well, built a better squad.
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Didn't he take charge on a match day too? and didn't wait until the monday?, ended a bit of a disaster but his attitude was great attitude and better than the average ones who had high PL reputation and signing his old well passed it mates ;)
 
Obviously under achieved massively with the squad he had but one thing a will say about him we went from Parkinson who would say a point at Wimbledon was a good result Johnson was in instantly we masssive club should be winning every game mentality started to change when he came in
 
He talked some sh*te at times, but always came across as a decent lad.

Hope he’s enjoying his success, wish him well
 
Whilst Terry Butcher was awful, possibly the worst since Laurie Mac, he didn’t have much to work with.
Jack Ross however, failed to deliver with the best squad in L1, disastrous failure.
Dour, dull and disappointing.
 
Mowbray Boss Gilet said:
Some will criticise your opinion, but if he wasn't all Brent then he wouldn't be made out anywhere near as bad as he is.

Yes we progressed after him, but we got lucky in hindsight with Alex Neil who has proven before and after that he is a top level championship manager. Some of the results under Johnson were minging but we weren't in that bad of a position table wise when he got sacked.

Did Johnson deserved to get sacked? At the time probably yes due to the calamity results, but in terms of managers we had in that period, he was one of the better ones?
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We didnt follow the protocols.
Ffs.
 
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