Kobe Bryant Dead

[Billy2Sheds]

I’d argue MJ, KB and LeBJ are the most famous outside of the US.

Obviously honourable shouts to Magic, Shaq, Larry Bird and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

Rodman - not for his basketball ability mind...

 

[Dun-Cow]

Worth a few minutes to understand the sheer impact this man had courtesy of Patrick Bet-David

 

[shadowplay]

This. 20 years ago Shaq was everywhere but he was a big personality as much as he was a good basketball player. When he retired he disappeared from public consciousness (I still
Follow him on social media like).

 

[dangermows]

Pilot error?

 

[ErichZann]

Pilot error?

Aye should have flown under IFR instead of VFR......learned more about helicopters today than ever before.

 

[dangermows]

Aye should have flown under IFR instead of VFR......learned more about helicopters today than ever before.

Fuck it, will rely on eye sight and fly too low.

 

[RossTheNinja]

Aye should have flown under IFR instead of VFR......learned more about helicopters today than ever before.

The ceiling was 2500 and he was going to fly at 1500 if I remember correctly. Surely 1500 ft is plenty of altitude? Might have the numbers wrong but don't really want to re watch the video.

 

[robbied1]

sorry, who mentioned politics?

You brought politicians tweets into it

 

[Tommasi]

Awful news but I find it utterly bizarre people sharing tributes to him on social media when I'm 99% sure they had no idea who he was until today. Guess that's the nature of the beast like.

 

[Plank]

Awful news but I find it utterly bizarre people sharing tributes to him on social media when I'm 99% sure they had no idea who he was until today. Guess that's the nature of the beast like.

I'm more surprised that some people don't know who he is

 

[dangermows]

The ceiling was 2500 and he was going to fly at 1500 if I remember correctly. Surely 1500 ft is plenty of altitude? Might have the numbers wrong but don't really want to re watch the video.

Dangerously low I read.

 

[SYB_DC]

The ceiling was 2500 and he was going to fly at 1500 if I remember correctly. Surely 1500 ft is plenty of altitude? Might have the numbers wrong but don't really want to re watch the video.

Not when you're flying in steep terrain. 2500 ASL does not equal 2500 AGL, and same for 1500. There are several peaks in those mountains well over 2500 feet.

 

[RossTheNinja]

Not when you're flying in steep terrain. 2500 ASL does not equal 2500 AGL, and same for 1500. There are several peaks in those mountains well over 2500 feet.

Which one would normally be given to the ATC?

 

[SYB_DC]

Which one would normally be given to the ATC?

That would be ASL, not AGL. ATC screens don't adjust altitude for the surrounding ground level - it would be chaos.

 

[Ken Tishtown]

You brought politicians tweets into it

And?
The tweet wasn’t about politics and neither was my reply

 

[RossTheNinja]

That would be ASL, not AGL. ATC screens don't adjust altitude for the surrounding ground level - it would be chaos.

Makes sense. They went well below their agreed flight level from what I could make out so I dunno if this will be caused by the pilot or a malfunction.

 

[SYB_DC]

Makes sense. They went well below their agreed flight level from what I could make out so I dunno if this will be caused by the pilot or a malfunction.

It's hard to tell from what I'm reading, but one thing to remember is that flying VFR (at least in the US) requires you to stay 500 feet below cloud so that IFR traffic in the clouds has time to see and avoid you once they emerge. If the cloud ceiling goes down to 1800, suddenly your max altitude under VFR is 1300. Obviously you'd violate that rather than crash, but at that point you're supposed to transition to IFR, which is going to cause issues where he was - busy airspace in the mountains. You'd be needing to fly visual while staying legal in tough conditions while getting vectors from ATC to transition to IFR while you couldn't see the peaks around you. That's a heavy workload for a single pilot. I don't fly helicopters, but it's pretty obvious when you start seeing what the failure mode is for a simple change in weather why others were staying on the ground.

 

[robbied1]

And?
The tweet wasn’t about politics and neither was my reply

All politicians tweets have a political element to them

 

[Ken Tishtown]

All politicians tweets have a political element to them

I really don’t think they do. He was passing on his condolences - albeit totally plagiarising someone else’s sentiments.

 

[zinedine]

I don't follow basketball and had never heard of him before the crash. The really sad element to this is he had his 13 year old daughter with him and she died as well. Seriously I don't understand why anybody apart from forces personal would get on a helicopter voluntarily. I know I wouldn't.