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Jordan Henderson (signed for Brentford)


MadMackem7 said:
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You said Walker looked well past it at city

This is exactly the same as Hendo.
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Kyle Walker "never struck me as a leader" is the key bit there actually. I wouldn't want Henderson starting for us, as I've said lots, I suspect he probably is past it (although Ajax fans still love him and he was in the last England squad...). But it's his leadership and off the field presence I would want to bring in. I don't think you get that from Walker (who incidentally, Burnley fans think will be starting for them next season from what i've read). There's also a massive difference in the wages for Kyle Walker, and a Henderson coming back to his old club.

If Henderson wanted standard PL wages I wouldn't go anywhere near him. I would expect him to be significantly cheaper then he could demand elsewhere, as he will know that moeny can and shout be spent elsewhere on the squad.
 
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MadMackem7 said:
I’d be interested to know if he’d never played for us and wasn’t a Sunderland fan how many would want to sign this specific midfielder at this point in his career
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I would be a no, but you're missing his value of the pitch as a passionate fan with buckets of experience he can impose on the youngster we're bringing in. Hee'd be a coach/occassional player for me but I'm not convinced that's what he'll be after with playing for England still.
 
Weardale warrior said:
Prem winning liverpool captain
Champions league winning captain
England international (still)
Ajax captain
Becomes available on a free and we are looking for a sprinkle of experience in our young squad, we would be crazy not to have a conversation with that player!

Oh and he is a Sunderland Lad, who developed through the academy and has played for us and loves the club!

Honestly anyone that can’t see that a move for Henderson could be good for the club as a whole are maybe kidding themselves. We can argue all day about what capacity he plays at or how much he is involved but you can’t deny he would be a sensible addition.
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If he is not coming it’s a massive mistake for the club.

I think some need to swallow their pride at the club and realise the difference he can make. He knows way more about the premier league than those this making the decisions and would likely be the difference of staying up or going down.
billybumbler said:
As someone mentioned previously the Steve Bould signing in 99-00 was instrumental in giving us the experience and stability we lacked in 96-97.

I reckon Henderson would bring the same and it'd be a crying shame if we don't sign him imo
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All day long.
 
He's basically going to be a squad player wherever he ends up. He's 35, and no club are going to be building their tactics or formation around him at that age. He's got to accept that.

Maybe he thought the club would get the bunting out and have the armband ready for him, but the DoF we've brought in and the board look as if they have other ideas.

Let's not forget that there's plenty of leadership and grit In the squad already. These lads have fought their way to 2 promotions and have a mentality that sees them refuse to give up. I'm not sure they need much hand holding from Henderson tbh.
 
Dan The Man said:
There’s no article it’s just common knowledge that some know
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Not sure what you mean by "common knowledge that some know ". It's one or the other, surely?

That's up there with ' a friend who knows someone in the club told me' and ' a good friend of JH told a lad my friend knows ' in terms of reliability factor.
Northumberland Rocks said:
If he is not coming it’s a massive mistake for the club.

I think some need to swallow their pride at the club and realise the difference he can make. He knows way more about the premier league than those this making the decisions and would likely be the difference of staying up or going down.
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Remind us again how that worked out for Ajax last season with JH? 😉
 
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Mboma said:
He's basically going to be a squad player wherever he ends up. He's 35, and no club are going to be building their tactics or formation around him at that age. He's got to accept that.

Maybe he thought the club would get the bunting out and have the armband ready for him, but the DoF we've brought in and the board look as if they have other ideas.

Let's not forget that there's plenty of leadership and grit In the squad already. These lads have fought their way to 2 promotions and have a mentality that sees them refuse to give up. I'm not sure they need much hand holding from Henderson tbh.
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I’m not convinced we do have a lot of leadership. A great group of lads got us up but who, other than O’Nien was a leader?
 
shkatërrues said:
I’m not convinced we do have a lot of leadership. A great group of lads got us up but who, other than O’Nien was a leader?
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Onien, Neil, Mepham, Browne, and Hume all looked to have a say on the pitch as well as off it. Diarra was captaining his side before coming here, the others coming in have a fair amount of European experience.

This whole bring Hendo in to babysit the young'uns is pretty much bollocks anyway. What's he going to do if we're 18th in the league and 3 nowt down at half time with our backs to the wall, tell the lads how he won the Champions League with Liverpool?...he's basically had none of that kind of experience in the PL since he left us as a kid himself!....he may need someone to hold his hand when he has to play for a side that doesn't have the best players or the lions share of possession.
 
J Doughnut said:
It is a fair comparison relative to level we are asking them to play at.

There is a reason most people retire before there mid 30s. He might get through the season, which would be grand. This idea people are pushing that he can just sit snd let others do the running is crap though. If his legs are gone, he won't be able to do it in the prem.
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I don’t think it is. Because Leadbittet was finished Hendo isn’t. You’re basing your view on the fact Hendo is finished. There is no evidence to that effect.
I doubt anyone expects him to be at what was his peak, but conversely no one expects a passenger.
One size does not fit all. Leave it to the experts to work out.
He’s less of a risk that many a player with history of injuries
 
billybumbler said:
As someone mentioned previously the Steve Bould signing in 99-00 was instrumental in giving us the experience and stability we lacked in 96-97.

I reckon Henderson would bring the same and it'd be a crying shame if we don't sign him imo
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I agree but for every Steve Bold there’s a Glenn Loovens, Kenny Cunningham, Alan Stubbs, Stan Varga.
 
Mboma said:
He's basically going to be a squad player wherever he ends up. He's 35, and no club are going to be building their tactics or formation around him at that age. He's got to accept that.

Maybe he thought the club would get the bunting out and have the armband ready for him, but the DoF we've brought in and the board look as if they have other ideas.

Let's not forget that there's plenty of leadership and grit In the squad already. These lads have fought their way to 2 promotions and have a mentality that sees them refuse to give up. I'm not sure they need much hand holding from Henderson tbh.
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Let’s be honest, none of the movers & shakers at the club KLD, KS, FG or RLB have any attachments, emotional, historical, or otherwise with Henderson. I’m in no doubt that they will make a decision based on what’s in the best interests of the club. I’m in the BHH camp for what it’s worth.
 
No player should be guaranteed games, as players form dips or improved..that should be the baseline for your inclusion in the team otherwise where's the incentive for players not in the starting line up
 
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