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Jordan Henderson (signed for Brentford)


Bottom line on this is if someone said Sunderland have the chance to bring in a 35 year old current England international who has captained his club team to winning both the EPL and ECL who is also a Sunderland supporter, 99% would say sign him up.
It's only because it's Henderson and his dubious Saudi decision that brings any doubt. He's made a bad judgement which happens. In the context that he wasn't and still isn't the only high profile player to make that decision.
There's nothing to suggest his character would be disruptive towards the current culture in any way. Indeed there are no footballing reason why he wouldn't be an ideal signing.
 
hank williams said:
He made an error of judgment we’ve all done that
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He completely threw away everything he said he publicly stood for. A mistake is something much more minor. What he did was unforgiveable. He doubled down whilst out there being a poster boy for the world cup bid. He commanded big money because the Saudis knew, as we know if they Could corrupt someone like him, anyone is getable
Kent_Mackem said:
Morality do you mean?
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Yes that too :lol:
 
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Kent_Mackem said:
Alreet Jordan?

Dear oh dear 🙄

And all because I have my own opinion and wish to stick to some very basic principles.
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You look down on Jordan Henderson.That to me is pure arrogance. You have never met the guy - I have. You have never spoken to his family, friends, team mates, business associates - but seem to think you are superior to a proper Sunderland legend!

You are either arrogant or deluded! Let’s have a look at your life - what gives you the arrogance to condemn a great guy such as Hendo!?
 
Im wrang oni said:
Bottom line on this is if someone said Sunderland have the chance to bring in a 35 year old current England international who has captained his club team to winning both the EPL and ECL who is also a Sunderland supporter, 99% would say sign him up.
It's only because it's Henderson and his dubious Saudi decision that brings any doubt. He's made a bad judgement which happens. In the context that he wasn't and still isn't the only high profile player to make that decision.
There's nothing to suggest his character would be disruptive towards the current culture in any way. Indeed there are no footballing reason why he wouldn't be an ideal signing.
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Yes, I agree….. as can be seen on here most supporters don’t agree with the concerns about him being pinned up (as captain) as a role model.

Not sure it’s 99% mind. I’d hope it would be a bit lower.

If it happens it happens. Those few who are uncomfortable with it will be in the minority as ever, and we’ll need to decide what we do afterwards. But that decision will be ours to make no matter what abuse and ridicule we get on here.
 
YorkMackem said:
And within weeks of getting there, realised it was a mistake. He then turned away inside 6 months from the millions offered and went to Ajax without any Saudi £££££
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Because he hated it there. That's called consequence, not regret that he made a huge moral fckup and betrayed a group of people he'd been very publically supporting.
Where's the evidence that he had some sort of moral epiphany?
He could well be a great signing for us, but he's still a hypocrite who refuses to condemn the Saudis.
 
Kent_Mackem said:
Yes, I agree….. as can be seen on here most supporters don’t agree with the concerns about him being pinned up (as captain) as a role model.

Not sure it’s 99% mind. I’d hope it would be a bit lower.

If it happens it happens. Those few who are uncomfortable with it will be in the minority as ever, and we’ll need to decide what we do afterwards. But that decision will be ours to make no matter what abuse and ridicule we get on here.
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Go and speak out about the murderous and barbaric regimes in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Lebanon - I look forward to seeing your comments?
 
Im wrang oni said:
Bottom line on this is if someone said Sunderland have the chance to bring in a 35 year old current England international who has captained his club team to winning both the EPL and ECL who is also a Sunderland supporter, 99% would say sign him up.
It's only because it's Henderson and his dubious Saudi decision that brings any doubt. He's made a bad judgement which happens. In the context that he wasn't and still isn't the only high profile player to make that decision.
There's nothing to suggest his character would be disruptive towards the current culture in any way. Indeed there are no footballing reason why he wouldn't be an ideal signing.
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Does the Liverpool Assistant coach going to Ajax as manager change Henderson decision of coming to Sunderland? It’s clear Sunderland/Rangers/Ajax his only spots next season
 
Morse said:
Because he hated it there. That's called consequence, not regret that he made a huge moral fckup and betrayed a group of people he'd been very publically supporting.
Where's the evidence that he had some sort of moral epiphany?
He could well be a great signing for us, but he's still a hypocrite who refuses to condemn the Saudis.
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Do you condemn Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, Jihadi State, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Islamic State?

You condemn Hendo - let’s hear your views!
 
Birtley Lad said:
You look down on Jordan Henderson.That to me is pure arrogance. You have never met the guy - I have. You have never spoken to his family, friends, team mates, business associates - but seem to think you are superior to a proper Sunderland legend!

You are either arrogant or deluded! Let’s have a look at your life - what gives you the arrogance to condemn a great guy such as Hendo!?
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I don't look down on Jordan Henderson. As I have explained I just don't think he is the right type of role model for our youngsters to look up to. Don't you see the difference? He made a big thing about gay rights, equal opportunities and he was (quite rightly) plauded for it and admired hugely by many people. Then he tossed all of that away to seek $$ millions in Saudi - a country well known for its appalling record on gay rights, human rights in general and the way they treat women. The fact that he may or may not have actually earned any money in the end is irrelevant. he chose to go there.

How do you know I have never met the guy? All you can say for certain is that you have never met me (thank goodness!) You also have no idea whether or not I have spoken to his friends, family, team mates of business associates. You don't have a fecking clue about that.

I have never thought, written, implied or said I am superior to Jordan Henderson. I simply think we could have a better role model in place as our captain.

My life has nothing to do with whether we should sign Jordan Henderson. That is a really odd thing for you to write. I would never take money from Saudi - whether that is the state or a private company that runs a football club. I suppose we all have different ethics and morals and we just need to make our own choices.
 
Morse said:
What point are you trying to make, here?
As usual, those who support Henderson have nothing but straw man arguments.
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I don’t support Henderson. He doesn’t need my support - he is a very successful footballer who has captained his country, captained his club to the Champions League Trophy - is a great husband, father, son and mate! Who are you big man?
 
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