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Joni Mitchell leaving Spotify

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Frank Bullitt said:
It'll have an effect. It's not just 50 something duffers like me who listen to Neil Young. Also if you are trying to sell a comprehensive music streaming service and you lose some of the biggest recording stars from your library it will hit subscriptions and I doubt they have much leeway regarding that number.
It's already got me questioning the reliability of a music streaming service and I've been a subscriber for years. And once that ball starts rolling it could bring the house down quickly
I don't blame Spotify or want Joe Rogan taken down, but its shown me the flaws in the Spotify model that I hadn't been aware of previously and that could effect their business.
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I don’t think it’s much of a hinderance these days to find music elsewhere and for free at that.

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cluffy said:
believe me, it's a PR disaster to have esteemed artists leaving it and papers writing articles about it. They won't want The Beatles or Dylan leaving. They treat the artists pretty badly in the first place I'd imagine plenty will be happy to put the boot in. Taylor Swift for one.
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Rogan has more monthly listeners on Spotify than The Beatles, Dylan, Neil Young, Elvis Presley combined and then quadrupled.

I genuinely think it’s a massive PR win for Spotify
 
joemcdokes said:
I don’t think it’s much of a hinderance these days to find music elsewhere and for free at that.

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I'm already thinking of going back to buying CDs, this has shown me an unreliability of a music streaming service. That's not good for Spotify. Their share price will rely on them hitting targets. If this gets out of hand targets might get missed, the share price drops and its bye bye Spotify.
 
Frank Bullitt said:
I'm already thinking of going back to buying CDs, this has shown me an unreliability of a music streaming service. That's not good for Spotify. Their share price will rely on them hitting targets. If this gets out of hand targets might get missed, the share price drops and its bye bye Spotify.
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Why no, never going to happen.
 
You either die or live long enough to become part of the establishment.

Wouldn't be surprised if this was a grand plan by Spotify to generate publicity and position themselves as the cool new place the old fuddy-duddies can't handle.
 
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Frijj said:
I'm not making a value judgement about whether I know or do not know any Neil Young or Joni Mitchell songs, just saying that I suspect my generation and younger don't really see the pair of them in perhaps the same light others do.

FWIW The Beatles are by far my most played artist of all time, so I've got nothing against music that was popular in the 60s or owt.
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Disregarding the political element to all this, both Young and Mitchell were/are significant influences to many of my generation.

If as a relatively callow youth you still appreciate The Beatles canon, then may I respectfully suggest you give them both a spin.

As @Harry Angstrom has already said, NY's After The Gold Rush is a seminal album and a good place to start.

Similarly, Joni Mitchell's Blue is widely regarded as one of the best albums ever and for the very good reason that it's simply a work of genius.

Both artists are possibly acquired tastes, especially Neil's voice, but are worth the effort.

HMSO, as ever.
 
I think this talk of a ball rolling is premature. I don't think Neil Young or Joni Mitchell are relevant enough to cause Spotify customers elsewhere or embolden other artists to remove their music. If a major, contemporary artist, or a generation-spanning legend of popular music pulls out, then maybe.
Pancho said:
Disregarding the political element to all this, both Young and Mitchell were/are significant influences to many of my generation.

If as a relatively callow youth you still appreciate The Beatles canon, then may I respectfully suggest you give them both a spin.

As @Harry Angstrom has already said, NY's After The Gold Rush is a seminal album and a good place to start.

Similarly, Joni Mitchell's Blue is widely regarded as one of the best albums ever and for the very good reason that it's simply a work of genius.

Both artists are possibly acquired tastes, especially Neil's voice, but are worth the effort.

HMSO, as ever.
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I'll give him a go.
 
Frijj said:
I think this talk of a ball rolling is premature. I don't think Neil Young or Joni Mitchell are relevant enough to cause Spotify customers elsewhere or embolden other artists to remove their music. If a major, contemporary artist, or a generation-spanning legend of popular music pulls out, then maybe.


I'll give him a go.
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It’ll be interesting. There are a number of artists that aren’t on Spotify for one reason or another (Beyoncé springs to mind), and a number who are vocally anti it (Thom Yorke called it the last desperate fart of a dying corpse and pulled his stuff temporarily a few years ago).
 
Frijj said:
I think this talk of a ball rolling is premature. I don't think Neil Young or Joni Mitchell are relevant enough to cause Spotify customers elsewhere or embolden other artists to remove their music. If a major, contemporary artist, or a generation-spanning legend of popular music pulls out, then maybe.


I'll give him a go.
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7 days ago I had the utmost confidence in Spotify, today I'm questioning the reliability of their service. It's that kind of doubt spreading that hits this kind of business. I didn't sign up to Spotify for a niche music service, I subscribe for its comprehensive library. I'm not going to pay for a playlist making service.
 
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Be interesting to see what percentage of spotify premium payers are of an older demographic. I'd imagine loads of kids just listen for free.
 
Frank Bullitt said:
7 days ago I had the utmost confidence in Spotify, today I'm questioning the reliability of their service. It's that kind of doubt spreading that hits this kind of business. I didn't sign up to Spotify for a niche music service, I subscribe for its comprehensive library. I'm not going to pay for a playlist making service.
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It's pretty comprehensive and anything they don't have, you can load in, if you have it. The amount of new music I've discovered through it, makes it worthwhile in itself.

If that doubt spreads and people pull out then yes it will cause problems. I just don't personally believe, and on the strength of the evidence available, don't see Young or Mitchell's departure as significant enough to cause a mass exodus of subscribers or artists. It will take a major contemporary artist to go, and make a big deal of it.
 
Frijj said:
I think this talk of a ball rolling is premature. I don't think Neil Young or Joni Mitchell are relevant enough to cause Spotify customers elsewhere or embolden other artists to remove their music. If a major, contemporary artist, or a generation-spanning legend of popular music pulls out, then maybe.


I'll give him a go.
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I thought the same but the apparent backlash has surprised me. Time will tell how influential these two 70 odd year olds are today.

It's only slightly irritating to me as I tend to ration my listening of classic albums so they stay relatively fresh.

I use Spotify more to expand my musical tastes rather than limit myself to older classics.

*****

Good man, but if you f***ing detest him/them, don't come crying to me.
 
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