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Joe Root

tynevalleyblackcat

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Anyone else been enjoying seeing him climb up the all time highest test scoring ranks in the last year or so. I started taking a keen interest in this when he overtook Jayawardene, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sangakara about a year and half ago. After today he is now closing down 4th, 3rd and 2nd on the list. He is now 201 behind Dravid, 202 behind Kallis and 291 behind Ponting in 2nd place.

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With 4 more tests left in this series and if he can keep fit and on reasonable form, there is every chance he can go 2nd on the all time list this calender year or early in the next one during the ashes.

Its a little 'aside' I have been enjoying over the last year or so. Wether he can go on to challenge Tendulkar for top spot will depend on his fitness, desire and form/continued test selection as thats still a big chunk of runs and will take 3-5 years even for a player as good as Root.

What's people's thoughts? Can he/will he do it?
 
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tynevalleyblackcat said:
Anyone else been enjoying seeing him climb up the all time highest test scoring ranks in the last year or so. I started taking a keen interest in this when he overtook Jayawardene, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sangakara about a year and half ago. After today he is now closing down 4th, 3rd and 2nd on the list. He is now 201 behind Dravid, 202 behind Kallis and 291 behind Ponting in 2nd place.

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With 4 more tests left in this series and if he can keep fit and on reasonable form, there is every chance he can go 2nd on the all time list this calender year or early in the next one during the ashes.

Its a little 'aside' I have been enjoying over the last year or so. Wether he can go on to challege Tendulkar for top spot will depend on his fitness, desire and form/continued test selection as thats still a big chunk of runs and will take 3-5 years even for a player as good as Root.

What's people's thoughts? Can he/will he do it?
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Yes I think he can and will
 
On current form and with around 12 tests per year in his career so far, he should be somewhere close in three years providing he plays every test, but as I said, who knows what injuries and the passing years may do. Best of luck to him though.
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
On current form and with around 12 tests per year in his career so far, he should be somewhere close in three years providing he plays every test, but as I said, who knows what injuries and the passing years may do. Best of luck to him though.
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The question was can he get to second not 1st! The correct answer is yes, probably within this series or Australia!!
 
LynchMob said:
The question was can he get to second not 1st! The correct answer is yes, probably within this series or Australia!!
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No my question was can he catch Tendulkar. Read it again.

I admit it was not a direct question but I think most people have picked up what I meant, Can he get to 16,000+ and overtake Tendulkar.
 
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tynevalleyblackcat said:
Anyone else been enjoying seeing him climb up the all time highest test scoring ranks in the last year or so. I started taking a keen interest in this when he overtook Jayawardene, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sangakara about a year and half ago. After today he is now closing down 4th, 3rd and 2nd on the list. He is now 201 behind Dravid, 202 behind Kallis and 291 behind Ponting in 2nd place.

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With 4 more tests left in this series and if he can keep fit and on reasonable form, there is every chance he can go 2nd on the all time list this calender year or early in the next one during the ashes.

Its a little 'aside' I have been enjoying over the last year or so. Wether he can go on to challenge Tendulkar for top spot will depend on his fitness, desire and form/continued test selection as thats still a big chunk of runs and will take 3-5 years even for a player as good as Root.

What's people's thoughts? Can he/will he do it?
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Kumar my favourite of the modern list, what a player!
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
Anyone else been enjoying seeing him climb up the all time highest test scoring ranks in the last year or so. I started taking a keen interest in this when he overtook Jayawardene, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sangakara about a year and half ago. After today he is now closing down 4th, 3rd and 2nd on the list. He is now 201 behind Dravid, 202 behind Kallis and 291 behind Ponting in 2nd place.

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With 4 more tests left in this series and if he can keep fit and on reasonable form, there is every chance he can go 2nd on the all time list this calender year or early in the next one during the ashes.

Its a little 'aside' I have been enjoying over the last year or so. Wether he can go on to challenge Tendulkar for top spot will depend on his fitness, desire and form/continued test selection as thats still a big chunk of runs and will take 3-5 years even for a player as good as Root.

What's people's thoughts? Can he/will he do it?
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Intriguing, I’ve had a fascination with his Test average, I’d love to see him keep it above 50 for his entire career. Regarding the list, nothing would please me more than to see him overtake Tendulkar.
 
Raymondo said:
Intriguing, I’ve had a fascination with his Test average, I’d love to see him keep it above 50 for his entire career. Regarding the list, nothing would please me more than to see him overtake Tendulkar.
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The average is interesting. Its an age old cricket stat and seen as a measure of the player. BUT. What if you are more attacking, get more runs per match for your team, but get out more?

If you look at the cricinfo list I posted, Tendulkar has an average of 53.78 and Roots average is 50.92, BUT, Tendulkar contributed 79.6 runs per match played and Root has contributed 84.98 runs per match played. Surely 85 runs per match is better for your team than 80?

I realise Tendulkar played in a different era when less runs per over were scored, but its food for thought. Whats more important to the team? The personal average of the batter or the ammount of runs he contributes in each game. The answer is obvious yet cricket uses the other metric?
 
tynevalleyblackcat said:
Anyone else been enjoying seeing him climb up the all time highest test scoring ranks in the last year or so. I started taking a keen interest in this when he overtook Jayawardene, Lara, Chanderpaul and Sangakara about a year and half ago. After today he is now closing down 4th, 3rd and 2nd on the list. He is now 201 behind Dravid, 202 behind Kallis and 291 behind Ponting in 2nd place.

You must be logged on to see external links

With 4 more tests left in this series and if he can keep fit and on reasonable form, there is every chance he can go 2nd on the all time list this calender year or early in the next one during the ashes.

Its a little 'aside' I have been enjoying over the last year or so. Wether he can go on to challenge Tendulkar for top spot will depend on his fitness, desire and form/continued test selection as thats still a big chunk of runs and will take 3-5 years even for a player as good as Root.

What's people's thoughts? Can he/will he do it?
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I think he will.

Stays fit of course but I think he's earned the right when to retire imo. Not going to get another bat like him for a long time. I want him to play for England for as long as possible!

Hard to guage batsmen from different eras. I would class Root as the better test batter but Tendulkar is the greatest ODI batsman ever imo.
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Kumar my favourite of the modern list, what a player!
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One of my all time favourite players is Sangakara. On and off the field. Handsome bastard too.
 
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tynevalleyblackcat said:
The average is interesting. Its an age old cricket stat and seen as a measure of the player. BUT. What if you are more attacking, get more runs per match for your team, but get out more?

If you look at the cricinfo list I posted, Tendulkar has an average of 53.78 and Roots average is 50.92, BUT, Tendulkar contributed 79.6 runs per match played and Root has contributed 84.98 runs per match played. Surely 85 runs per match is better for your team than 80?

I realise Tendulkar played in a different era when less runs per over were scored, but its food for thought. Whats more important to the team? The personal average of the batter or the ammount of runs he contributes in each game. The answer is obvious yet cricket uses the other metric?
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Aye I've recently come to that view that runs per game should be looked at alongside average. When discussing the best players etc.

Because not out situations are not equal. Root is very unselfish I have always found and doesn't chase a red inker (which I will note has annoyed me over many years :lol:)
 
Another century in the series. Number 1 in the world right now and catching up to Sachin's runs record.

I just hope when Root does eventually retire, it's on his own terms and doesn't end up having a Jimmy Anderson style conversation with McCullum.
 
Aidan11 said:
Another century in the series. Number 1 in the world right now and catching up to Sachin's runs record.

I just hope when Root does eventually retire, it's on his own terms and doesn't end up having a Jimmy Anderson style conversation with McCullum.
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Based off his presser he's not ruling out staying on till 29/30 Ashes when he's 38/39
1,985 runs to overtake Sachin and he's scored 1997 runs in his last 21 tests

England have 12 tests currently scheduled up to end of March 2027.

3 New Zealand (H) June 2026
3 Pakistan (H) Aug/Sept 2026
3 South Africa (H) Dec 26/Jan 27
2 Bangladesh (A) Feb 2027
1 Australia (A) March 2027

Then likely
1 Ireland (H) May/June 2027
5 Australia (H) July/August 2027
5 India (A) Early 2028

So that's 21 to 22 tests you'd imagine he will go past him in this period.
 
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Inside Forward said:
I adore the bloke. Will probably shed a tear when he retires.

England’s finest.
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Let's hope your eyes stay dry for another 4 years then. Doesn't feel like he's slackening off at all, but I'm always wary of Michael Vaughan's comments about when he knew it was time to retire - came out of nowhere, just woke up one day and didn't want to go to training. He knew then he was done.
 
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