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Jared Gillet

Do you think it was handball?

I'm not a fanny at all, it was a dreadful officiating performance all round, bizarre you can't just admit that. Pawson was also shite last week but they were decisions that you're always going to get either way. Yesterday was on another level.

That list you made above are all 'either way' decisions except for the penalty.

He was shite, mind.
 

Do you think it was handball?

I'm not a fanny at all, it was a dreadful officiating performance all round, bizarre you can't just admit that. Pawson was also shite last week but they were decisions that you're always going to get either way. Yesterday was on another level.

They are all f***ing shite man, every last one of them. Im not sure why they just don't get gobshites from forums like this to do the job
 
That list you made above are all 'either way' decisions except for the penalty.

He was shite, mind.
You aren't even allowed to say he was shite though, because other refs have made a mistake in history.

Theres no sensible debate around criticising the performances from either side on here. Its a total waste of time.
 
You aren't even allowed to say he was shite though, because other refs have made a mistake in history.

Theres no sensible debate around criticising the performances from either side on here. Its a total waste of time.

I am and just have :D
 
They are all f***ing shite man, every last one of them. Im not sure why they just don't get gobshites from forums like this to do the job
Its a very difficult job but sometimes you just can't sit there and defend them.

I'd love to know what his reasoning is from standing 5 yards from the penalty and not giving it. Then VAR also didn't get involved.

not down to pace of the game, not down to obstruction. Absolutely bizarre. Is he applying his own laws because its too early?
I am and just have :D
You'll get criticism for it though.
 
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Its a very difficult job but sometimes you just can't sit there and defend them.

I'd love to know what his reasoning is from standing 5 yards from the penalty and not giving it. Then VAR also didn't get involved.

not down to pace of the game, not down to obstruction. Absolutely bizarre.

You'll get criticism for it though.

I've said the penalty call was awful and there's no excuse for it. How's that not criticising him and the var officials?
 
I've said the penalty call was awful and there's no excuse for it. How's that not criticising him and the var officials?
You generally add on a defence to it and every ref makes mistakes etc etc. Theres always a caveat.

We've get a nice apology because the var should have stepped in but for some inexplicable reason, he didn't.
 
I've said the penalty call was awful and there's no excuse for it. How's that not criticising him and the var officials?

To be honest I was baffled by VAR - referees have a split second to make a decision and get stuff wrong. But VAR have time and various reviews and for them to say "normal contact" is utterly baffling. The goal by Evanilson is one of those that is a bit like Umpires Call in cricket - if the referree had disallowed it it would probably have stayed disallowed but he gave it, from the replays I saw it might have brushed his hand on the way up to his should or hit him just below the elbow but couldn't really say for sure either way.
 
The only proper bad decision one was the penalty. The rest could have went either way. Im not sure what you want me to say. Wether you like it or not hes obviously good at his job. Can you name me something he's done what any other referee hasn't done themselves?
Travelled here from Australia to behave like an absolute clown whilst professing to be a competent match official?
 
I've said the penalty call was awful and there's no excuse for it. How's that not criticising him and the var officials?
So what do you suggest happens now we've reached a point where you agree 'inexcusable' officiating occurred? Because your answer to date has been " nothing" .
 
I could add to this debate and state the absolute obvious, logical and common sense view.

Which is if a ref starts out from the bottom of his profession and in a diffrent country and moves all his way up to the top of his profession, therefore ending up in the best league in the world.

He must have been a good ref in a reasonably lot of games?

That’s common sense and logical.

but of course that often in short supply on here when mistakes are remembered for years and good games forgotten in seconds
 
I've said the penalty call was awful and there's no excuse for it. How's that not criticising him and the var officials?

if you look at each incident on an individual basis, then the penna call is 100% wrong, and the rest are 80/20 or 60/40 etc... fair enough

other than the added time, which he is 100% wrong about

so two major decisions 100% wrong.

but if you look at the game as a whole, instead of broken down into individual instances, then his performance becomes absolutely woeful.

there was a quite a few 50/50 shoulder charges that one minute he gave, the next minute he didn't. each one is a debatable decisions fair enough, but the lack of consistency means that he 100% got some of the wrong, as the same incident 5 minutes later he called the opposite way.

he had zero control over the game. stopping the game to bring players over to talk to him whilst others were screaming and shouting at him, meaning the play stopped for ages. then apparently he booked sadiki for bad-mouthing him. again, total lack of consistency. the players were running rings around him.
 
I could add to this debate and state the absolute obvious, logical and common sense view.

Which is if a ref starts out from the bottom of his profession and in a diffrent country and moves all his way up to the top of his profession, therefore ending up in the best league in the world.

He must have been a good ref in a reasonably lot of games?

That’s common sense and logical.

but of course that often in short supply on here when mistakes are remembered for years and good games forgotten in seconds

he must have done something right in his career, but that counted for fuck all last saturday. he was absolutely woeful. his attitude towards the game, the fans, the players is disgusting.

his level is a couple of steps down from the premier league where there is less spotlight.

the bloke simply does not have the professionalism and respect for the game that is required at that level
 
So what do you suggest happens now we've reached a point where you agree 'inexcusable' officiating occurred? Because your answer to date has been " nothing" .
Personally I think it’s straightforward what should happen imo, is that it should be treat like a forward missing a inexcusable chance or a keeper letting in a inexcusable goal.

If they have been poor up to that point drop them, but if they have had a lot of good games to offset that mistake keep them.

In short what should happen to refs and footballers is all performances should be taken into account not just the particular mistake.

I think that both fair and sensible
he must have done something right in his career, but that counted for fuck all last saturday. he was absolutely woeful. his attitude towards the game, the fans, the players is disgusting.

his level is a couple of steps down from the premier league where there is less spotlight.

the bloke simply does not have the professionalism and respect for the game that is required at that level
I think there is no disputing he was extremely bad on Saturday but the above post I have just posted should occur imo when assessing anyone.
 
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Personally I think it’s straightforward what should happen imo, is that it should be treat like a forward missing a inexcusable chance or a keeper letting in a inexcusable goal.

If they have been poor up to that point drop them, but if they have had a lot of good games to offset that mistake keep them.

In short what should happen to refs and footballers is all performances should be taken into account not just the particular mistake.

I think that both fair and sensible

I think there is no disputing he was extremely bad on Saturday but the above post I have just posted should occur imo when assessing anyone.
No mate , this ones inexcusable, inexplicable dont forget , not a percentage thing its a serious error for which no obvious cause can be found . Physical execution is always excusable by its nature.
Would you excuse a surgeon for a serious inexplicable error , or a police officer or a gas engineer ? Because overall they were ok ?
 
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he must have done something right in his career, but that counted for fuck all last saturday. he was absolutely woeful. his attitude towards the game, the fans, the players is disgusting.

his level is a couple of steps down from the premier league where there is less spotlight.

the bloke simply does not have the professionalism and respect for the game that is required at that level

Haven't all officals had similar games though? Are any of them capable of refereeing in the premier league in your opinion. I mean how ofter do study has offiacting? Away from sunderland games do you keep tabs on him? I referenced earlier i seen he do Leeds v Man Utd earlier this year and he was excellent. How does that tie in with him not been up for the job?
 
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