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Jack Clarke


Soton Pete said:
You think we could replace Sadiki for sensible money? And whilst Diarra has not had the best of seasons, it has been interupted by injury and the Afcon Cup, I suspect that if he stays we may see a much improved player next season.
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I like Sadiki but he's no Kante who was a breaker up of play and his assist stats were pretty good and he could pass as well and shoot. Compared to Kante, Sadiki shoots like a twelve year old and his passing and assisting stats aren't great. He's good at what he does well, breaking up play otherwise he's a one trick pony. We may still get decent money for him which I'd invest in someone who can break up play and be creative too even if he cots more.
 
Soton Pete said:
You think we could replace Sadiki for sensible money? And whilst Diarra has not had the best of seasons, it has been interupted by injury and the Afcon Cup, I suspect that if he stays we may see a much improved player next season.
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Plus fact hes still a baby. People forget how young he is
 
Johnny Gently said:
I like Sadiki but he's no Kante who was a breaker up of play and his assist stats were pretty good and he could pass as well and shoot. Compared to Kante, Sadiki shoots like a twelve year old and his passing and assisting stats aren't great. He's good at what he does well, breaking up play otherwise he's a one trick pony. We may still get decent money for him which I'd invest in someone who can break up play and be creative too even if he cots more.
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If we sold both Sadiki and Diarra I think we could sign better. They got us through this first difficult season but neither have a goal in them. Unacceptable when the midfield anchor is Xhaka.
 
Gloucester said:
If we sold both Sadiki and Diarra I think we could sign better. They got us through this first difficult season but neither have a goal in them. Unacceptable when the midfield anchor is Xhaka.
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I think both have played their part this season but Diarra has disappointed me a little, whether his injury is to blame or not I don't know but if Leeds still want him and Sadiki I'd sell in a heartbeat.
 
Johnny Gently said:
I like Sadiki but he's no Kante who was a breaker up of play and his assist stats were pretty good and he could pass as well and shoot. Compared to Kante, Sadiki shoots like a twelve year old and his passing and assisting stats aren't great. He's good at what he does well, breaking up play otherwise he's a one trick pony. We may still get decent money for him which I'd invest in someone who can break up play and be creative too even if he cots more.
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Compared to Kante, an exceptional player, many aren't as good.

Kante was 24 years old at Leicester and 25 when he moved to Chelsea.

Sadiki is 21 years old, plenty of time to develop and expand his game, especially with someone like Xhaka alongside him to learn from.
 
Rammstein said:
Compared to Kante, an exceptional player, many aren't as good.

Kante was 24 years old at Leicester and 25 when he moved to Chelsea.

Sadiki is 21 years old, plenty of time to develop and expand his game, especially with someone like Xhaka alongside him to learn from.
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Sometimes they go backwards it's not nailed on at all that he'll turn into Kante mk2. I think their may be players of a similar age that may have more to their game. The more players you have that can score and assist the better the team will be. Sadiki never looks like scoring. It isn't my decision, they won't be asking my opinion. The powers that be will decide who stays and who goes.
 
Johnny Gently said:
Sometimes they go backwards it's not nailed on at all that he'll turn into Kante mk2. I think their may be players of a similar age that may have more to their game. The more players you have that can score and assist the better the team will be. Sadiki never looks like scoring. It isn't my decision, they won't be asking my opinion. The powers that be will decide who stays and who goes.
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Which players - that we can afford - of Sadiki's age have more to their game and will score goals?

You use Kante as a ( very high ) benchmark, yet the same Kante has scored a total of 29 goals in 14 years.... and 8 of those were in the toy town Saudi league.

I'm pretty confident that RLB and co.knew what they were doing when they bought the lad, and have more faith in him than those who want to write him off after one season, part of which was disrupted by AFCON.

As you said, they're the ones who will make the decisions, and I'm sure we'll be seeing lots of Sadiki next season, and hopefully he'll continue to improve and play his part for us.
 
Rammstein said:
Which players - that we can afford - of Sadiki's age have more to their game and will score goals?

You use Kante as a ( very high ) benchmark, yet the same Kante has scored a total of 29 goals in 14 years.... and 8 of those were in the toy town Saudi league.

I'm pretty confident that RLB and co.knew what they were doing when they bought the lad, and have more faith in him than those who want to write him off after one season, part of which was disrupted by AFCON.

As you said, they're the ones who will make the decisions, and I'm sure we'll be seeing lots of Sadiki next season, and hopefully he'll continue to improve and play his part for us.
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I can only go on what I see and the same applies to Diarra, neither will be prolific based on what I've seen but if they aren't sold they may find themselves as finishers next season unless they improve. Now who would oust them as starters I've no idea I'll leave the scouting to Ghisolphi.
 
Johnny Gently said:
I can only go on what I see and the same applies to Diarra, neither will be prolific based on what I've seen but if they aren't sold they may find themselves as finishers next season unless they improve. Now who would oust them as starters I've no idea I'll leave the scouting to Ghisolphi.
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You used Kante as a benchmark
Kante has scored 21 goals in 420 games if we ignore his toy town Saudi games.
Diarra has 18 goals in 150 games.

Neither were bought to be prolific, both have helped to cement our place in the PL this season.

You want rid of both, but have no idea who to replace them with ? Helpful.

You say leave the scouting to Ghisolfi? I agree 100%. That's the same Ghisolfi who landed Diarra and Sadiki.........
 
Idlewild Mackem said:
This type of player is so scarce, especially at an affordable level. I cant think of any that are currently good at doing both
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Exactly, Caicedo is one of the best in PL at Sadiki's role and he averages 4 or 5 goals/assists combined per season.

Sadiki's had a very good first season and I think he's getting into better attacking areas as the season has gone on.

If he keeps that up, and the team continues to progress, I think he'll chip in with Caicedo type numbers next season.
 
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