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Jack Clarke

Lucky1985 said:
No, by my method we would have been the only people providing an offer to him as Ipswich would not have earned the right to provide him with an offer because they wouldn’t have matched our reasonable valuation.

£30m for a player of Clarks quality in this market is totally reasonable, and if nobody wants to play it then he remains our player.

We weren’t selling him on an auction, we don’t have to accept the highest bid for him.
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Unfortunately, one of the first rule of economics is something/ someone is worth what people are prepared to pay for it/ them.

I get we love the lad, but if he was worth £30m, people would have been banging the door down if they could get him for £20m.
 

Local Lad said:
I'm not sure about that. They have been fairly clear that this is how they will operate it's just a shame it's not as much as we should have got. And it's to someone that 2 seasons ago were starting the season in league 1.
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rentaghost said:
There has been a massive overreaction on here but its understandable when your best player leaves I suppose. I have had plenty of issues with the club over the last year but no issue at all over this and no issue with Clarke who i hope has a good career and makes the step up.

The reality is that most Sunderland supporters value Clarke a fair bit higher at least 20 + 5 but the bottom line is nobody else does. Every premiership club will be fully aware of Clarke's skill set and loads of clubs abroad as well and any one of them could have had Clarke for 25 million at any stage but none of them value him that highly. If we kept him another year he would either be disgruntled and not perform as well but even if he continued to perform its clear there something that top division clubs don't see in him. If top division clubs don't value him now then in what situation would they value him in a years time with one year left on his contract? He can hardly perform any better than he already has.
If Clarke has pushed for a move to a top flight side I cant see any alternative other than to get the best deal we can 20 mill plus sell on and try to build a team that doesn't have to rely as much on one player. I think this manager will make a good job of doing that.
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The manager is working with 2 hands tied behind his back, I like what I’ve seen so far but things will unravel very quickly in my opinion. He said he was bringing his own men in on the coaching side of things, which hasn’t materialised. If/when we slide down the table, the fans will turn on the owner rather the manager, and rightly so.
 
DoctorMick said:
Which means Clarke has informed the club he’s unhappy and they have to sell him for a shit fee? Right.
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You say "shit fee", the club would probably say "the best offer that was on the table". I suppose we could have tried a bit of brinkmanship to drive the bidding up over the next week but then we'd have no time to reinvest the money.
 
SAFCBlandy said:
You say "shit fee", the club would probably say "the best offer that was on the table". I suppose we could have tried a bit of brinksmanship to drive the bidding up over the next week but then we'd have no time to reinvest the money.
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Could have just kept him if they didn’t offer a decent fee…like other clubs do.
 
rentaghost said:
There has been a massive overreaction on here but its understandable when your best player leaves I suppose. I have had plenty of issues with the club over the last year but no issue at all over this and no issue with Clarke who i hope has a good career and makes the step up.

The reality is that most Sunderland supporters value Clarke a fair bit higher at least 20 + 5 but the bottom line is nobody else does. Every premiership club will be fully aware of Clarke's skill set and loads of clubs abroad as well and any one of them could have had Clarke for 25 million at any stage but none of them value him that highly. If we kept him another year he would either be disgruntled and not perform as well but even if he continued to perform its clear there something that top division clubs don't see in him. If top division clubs don't value him now then in what situation would they value him in a years time with one year left on his contract? He can hardly perform any better than he already has.
If Clarke has pushed for a move to a top flight side I cant see any alternative other than to get the best deal we can 20 mill plus sell on and try to build a team that doesn't have to rely as much on one player. I think this manager will make a good job of doing that.
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I can see this point of view aswell mind.
 
BarnesPark said:
One of the best performances by a team at the SoL for years and you made 2 contributions to the match thread- both negative. More Bisto anyone?

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Aye mate I’m a mag. Got me there like

Plenty people on here would vouch for me not being a mag but you believe what you want to believe.

The first one was obviously sarcasm and the second one was fact. The atmosphere was poor
 
rentaghost said:
There has been a massive overreaction on here but its understandable when your best player leaves I suppose. I have had plenty of issues with the club over the last year but no issue at all over this and no issue with Clarke who i hope has a good career and makes the step up.

The reality is that most Sunderland supporters value Clarke a fair bit higher at least 20 + 5 but the bottom line is nobody else does. Every premiership club will be fully aware of Clarke's skill set and loads of clubs abroad as well and any one of them could have had Clarke for 25 million at any stage but none of them value him that highly. If we kept him another year he would either be disgruntled and not perform as well but even if he continued to perform its clear there something that top division clubs don't see in him. If top division clubs don't value him now then in what situation would they value him in a years time with one year left on his contract? He can hardly perform any better than he already has.
If Clarke has pushed for a move to a top flight side I cant see any alternative other than to get the best deal we can 20 mill plus sell on and try to build a team that doesn't have to rely as much on one player. I think this manager will make a good job of doing that.
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Maybe other clubs knew our owners needed the cash and so were open to low-ball offers? No one wants to pay more than they have to.
 
gatopreto said:
The fact that they are here now is not an indication on their ceiling. As for the second bit, will they go for less? I wouldn't put it past Speakman.
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If they're wanted they go. Clarke was way above the others. They will go for less as not as good and Speakman will take anything half decent.
 
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