Is the 16.4 a success?
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Sillypoint
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That’s down to it not being played on terrestrial tv for the last 20 years really though
More because football is now played 12 months of the year.
Sillypoint
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Dont get me started on the never ending football season, its killing grass roots cricket
I’m not convinced it’s doing much for participation football either. When I was a lad pretty much any open patch, park etc across the region had properly laid out pitches that would rarely be quiet Saturday morning, Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning. Even though large numbers of them have fallen victim to housing development and council cuts, the ones that are left aren’t always full these days either. Seems to me grassroots football is dying on its arse too.
tynevalleyblackcat
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Its a good point this. Nobody cares about or has any afinity to these made up franchises. It could have been the Leeds cash converters or the Manchester money grabbers or was it the Surrey slush funders?
To be fair that isn't footballs fault. If a sport cannot continue to exist because another sport is more popular then it needs to have a good look at itself.
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Mackem Attack
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Are you saying the extra 20 balls is the limit of your kids attention span? Or just that they haven’t actually promoted or made T20 available, so this has become the de facto accessible T20?
I think they are two different arguments with two very different meanings
True up to a point. To some extent, this is a feature of the short form more generally though. I bet there’s plenty who don’t remember who won the last couple of Blasts either. I had to think hard to remember last year‘s and I was at the final (though perhaps drink and age also contribute to a certain fuzziness there). And while I could recount the results of individual ashes series and be pretty confident, I’d get almost all of them right, I would struggle to say for certain that we even played white ball against them last year. And that’s speaking as someone who thinks of themselves as a white ball fan.
That’s true, but football does overwhelm everything else in a way that it didn’t prior to the 1990s.
Grassroots cricket isn’t dying on its arse in the region now IMO. Numbers are down on 20 years ago but the excellent All Stars has regenerated things juniors-wise and it’s starting to filter through at senior level.
Sillypoint
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Football now never stops and participation must be at an all time high the amount of organised Junior teams around me, when i was a Kid there was a school team from each school and 2 local Teams above that, who basically took all the best kids from the schools, a bit more dog eat dog as it was one team per age group, but they never played in the summer, so we had plenty lads who played both
lad at work runs an uner 8's a team in Stanley, theyve numerous teams in each age group who play in organised leagues around the region every weekend over the winter, but when summer comes they still play in regular tournaments,
over the years my bairn played i lost count of how many under 11's cricket games where teams were short because lads were at football i bet its still the case
Allstars has seen an increase in some clubs but it doesnt always translate to participation, especially in the eventual change to hardball cricket, weve been lucky where the bairn plays, enough in a squad to always have 11, but My mates son plays at Beamish and said they had decent Allstars numbers every year but will struggle to get 11 under 13's out this year and havnt had a U15's for 2 years
Not really. Just observed that they enjoyed the 100 games they went to, and think they do a good job selling it to younger fans. T20 or 100 makes no real difference to me, not my favourite forms, but either/both have a place if people enjoy them.
That’s sad to hear but in general I think the number of junior sides is growing. And Sunday adult cricket (traditionally the entry point for kids) has grown by one third or so since All Stars started.
Twisted
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I dont think i could name half the teams to be fair
The womens super league was already rising and rising in popularity, i honestly doubt any success wouldnt have happened with or without it.
What is bonkers now is afaik women have no opportunity to play cricket the way its played internationally until they get into the international set up.... That seems so stupid it can't possibly be true can it?
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TheRey
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It's the ECB... If something is too stupid to possibly be true, it probably is.
