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Is Durham cricket club a mag place?

Back in the day ….long way back ( and I kna little about cricket ) -did Durham not used to be the club of Sunderland and Northumberland the club of Newcastle
Or have I just made that up cos I’m owld ?!
 

Back in the day ….long way back ( and I kna little about cricket ) -did Durham not used to be the club of Sunderland and Northumberland the club of Newcastle
Or have I just made that up cos I’m owld ?!
No you are correct. When the Professional game came too NE , Durham joined the cricket elite they used to play around the old county boundaries eg Durham City, Stockton on Tees , Darlington, Hartlepool, Ashbrooke, Gateshead Fell. As Northumberland never played in the County Championship and played mainly in the industrial south east of the county eg South Northumberland C C . Sponsorship was needed at Durham and Tyneside quickly jumped on the bandwagon with Scottish and Newcastle Breweries becoming prominent. Soon after odd games were played 'over the border' to give them a taste of the professional game.Since the new ground at Chester le Street, on the banks of the River Wear was opened it was adorned with the Newcastle Breweries adverts. Sunderland and Vaux were slow to respond, mainly due to lowly position financially of the football club and the outcome of Swallow Hotels decision to close the brewery.This is how the Newcastle link got a foothold. In the old days in the 1960's, Colin Milburn era, Co Durham was Co Durham and Sunderland was the county team, football wise.
Of course not because like I said before, do you honestly think Gateshead town centre, Dunston, Teams, Blaydon, Winlaton, Whickham, Bensham should all be predominantly red and white because they’re in County Durham? Despite them being a stones throw from Newcastle and can see St James from most of these places. All those places are as close to Newcastle as what Ryhope is to Sunderland city centre. County Durham is a decent sized place, stretching as far west as nearly Penrith. People have never chosen their football teams based on the county it’s in.
Traditionally the Sunderland fan base in the south and north west of Co Durham was loyal to SAFC. Ask the older generation, two that I know of told me 3 full coaches went every hiome game to Roker Park from Esh Winning in 1960's and one to Newcastle. Six coaches would leave from Consett to Roker every game. The biggest SAFCSA branch outside the main branch in Sunderland was the Consett / Stanley branch. Those people strongly thought that Sunderland was Co Durham's club and still do.
 
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No you are correct. When the Professional game came too NE , Durham joined the cricket elite they used to play around the old county boundaries eg Durham City, Stockton on Tees , Darlington, Hartlepool, Ashbrooke, Gateshead Fell. As Northumberland never played in the County Championship and played mainly in the industrial south east of the county eg South Northumberland C C . Sponsorship was needed at Durham and Tyneside quickly jumped on the bandwagon with Scottish and Newcastle Breweries becoming prominent. Soon after odd games were played 'over the border' to give them a taste of the professional game.Since the new ground at Chester le Street, on the banks of the River Wear was opened it was adorned with the Newcastle Breweries adverts. Sunderland and Vaux were slow to respond, mainly due to lowly position financially of the football club and the outcome of Swallow Hotels decision to close the brewery.This is how the Newcastle link got a foothold. In the old days in the 1960's, Colin Milburn era, Co Durham was Co Durham and Sunderland was the county team, football wise.

Traditionally the Sunderland fan base in the south and north west of Co Durham was loyal to SAFC. Ask the older generation, two that I know of told me 3 full coaches went every hiome game to Roker Park from Esh Winning in 1960's and one to Newcastle. Six coaches would leave from Consett to Roker every game. The biggest SAFCSA branch outside the main branch in Sunderland was the Consett / Stanley branch. Those people strongly thought that Sunderland was Co Durham's club and still do.
We should be aspiring to those halcyon days of support.

I know people are saying the grounds full we don't need any more support, but we do. We always do. The club, and the city.
 
No you are correct. When the Professional game came too NE , Durham joined the cricket elite they used to play around the old county boundaries eg Durham City, Stockton on Tees , Darlington, Hartlepool, Ashbrooke, Gateshead Fell. As Northumberland never played in the County Championship and played mainly in the industrial south east of the county eg South Northumberland C C . Sponsorship was needed at Durham and Tyneside quickly jumped on the bandwagon with Scottish and Newcastle Breweries becoming prominent. Soon after odd games were played 'over the border' to give them a taste of the professional game.Since the new ground at Chester le Street, on the banks of the River Wear was opened it was adorned with the Newcastle Breweries adverts. Sunderland and Vaux were slow to respond, mainly due to lowly position financially of the football club and the outcome of Swallow Hotels decision to close the brewery.This is how the Newcastle link got a foothold. In the old days in the 1960's, Colin Milburn era, Co Durham was Co Durham and Sunderland was the county team, football wise.

Traditionally the Sunderland fan base in the south and north west of Co Durham was loyal to SAFC. Ask the older generation, two that I know of told me 3 full coaches went every hiome game to Roker Park from Esh Winning in 1960's and one to Newcastle. Six coaches would leave from Consett to Roker every game. The biggest SAFCSA branch outside the main branch in Sunderland was the Consett / Stanley branch. Those people strongly thought that Sunderland was Co Durham's club and still do.
And yet plenty others confirm areas of west Durham have always had a big mag presence. In my lifetime that’s been the case. Counties don’t come into it for me, Sunderland AFC are the club of Sunderland, not County Durham because football clubs are generally not a county based sport.

We should be aspiring to those halcyon days of support.

I know people are saying the grounds full we don't need any more support, but we do. We always do. The club, and the city.
What halcyon days? We had some big crowds back in the 50s-60s but we can’t pretend Newcastle didn’t either, so it isn’t a case of ‘lost’ Co Durham fans have left us over generations and bolstered their ranks. The support we get now is generally bigger (consistently) than most of the crowds we got from the 60s-90s.

People talk about how there are small pockets of black and white in ‘Wearside’ areas, forgetting there are big %s in Tyneside areas like Hebburn and Jarra just over the other side of the river. A much shorter distance than say Chester le Street to the City of Sunderland border.
 
We should be aspiring to those halcyon days of support.

I know people are saying the grounds full we don't need any more support, but we do. We always do. The club, and the city.
Nah fuck em. They know where we are, we haven't moved or gone incognito. If they need to be swayed to courted them they aren't worth it, let the Mags have them. If people from Consett want to be Mags and pretend to have an airport then let them. If they want to support Durham County Cricket Club as well and pretend that its some Mag haven let them, they cant change facts. The main 2 being that despite being proud natives of County Durham they support a Northumberland football team and despite being part of the Toon Army (whatever the means) they support a cricket team that started in Sunderland.
 
And yet plenty others confirm areas of west Durham have always had a big mag presence. In my lifetime that’s been the case. Counties don’t come into it for me, Sunderland AFC are the club of Sunderland, not County Durham because football clubs are generally not a county based sport.


What halcyon days? We had some big crowds back in the 50s-60s but we can’t pretend Newcastle didn’t either, so it isn’t a case of ‘lost’ Co Durham fans have left us over generations and bolstered their ranks. The support we get now is generally bigger (consistently) than most of the crowds we got from the 60s-90s.

People talk about how there are small pockets of black and white in ‘Wearside’ areas, forgetting there are big %s in Tyneside areas like Hebburn and Jarra just over the other side of the river. A much shorter distance than say Chester le Street to the City of Sunderland border.
You are obviously are a younger man. I speak as a 75 year old, my marra who is 10 years my senior and born in Consett and is still a season card holder today. I got it straight from the horses mouth.Co Durham meant something, unique in its use of County amongst all English counties. Ofcourse the population was not 100% red and white and nobody suggested this. Both clubs have proud and loyal support. Post 92 Keegan era, when we at SAFC were at a very low ebb,as were the mags,John Hall (ex SAFC Season Ticket Holder from Ashington) cleverly created this Geordie Nation, backed whole heartedly by the Tyneside and wider NE press and TV media.There was the traditional demoralised support for all things mag which regarded the pair as heroes. There was no doubt new found 'band waggoners' becoming mags overnight from both traditional mag areas as well as those in Co Durham and parts of Wearside. To me those defectors are glory hunters and actively seek approval of the mag tribe.They have an air of superiority and thrive on hating anything to do with SAFC and the City of Sunderland . Having converted over, yet never having set foot in SJP and the majority lack any knowledge of the history of their 'new' team but will wear their shirt at any opportunity.
We are now in a new era at SAFC of growth and genuine pride in the set up at SOL and my hope is that we can grow as a club to return to our former glories and finally stop being a football laughing stock. The football world are quick to notice our current form and the positive feel around the SOL. This will only help attract the younger element from the NE. I feel our pride is already growing and it's a pleasure for those who always kept the faith.
 
There was always one steward (on a power trip) with the Newcastle crest on his hi-viz at recent games.Has wraparound shades on as well which is a red flag
 
You are obviously are a younger man. I speak as a 75 year old, my marra who is 10 years my senior and born in Consett and is still a season card holder today. I got it straight from the horses mouth.Co Durham meant something, unique in its use of County amongst all English counties. Ofcourse the population was not 100% red and white and nobody suggested this. Both clubs have proud and loyal support. Post 92 Keegan era, when we at SAFC were at a very low ebb,as were the mags,John Hall (ex SAFC Season Ticket Holder from Ashington) cleverly created this Geordie Nation, backed whole heartedly by the Tyneside and wider NE press and TV media.There was the traditional demoralised support for all things mag which regarded the pair as heroes. There was no doubt new found 'band waggoners' becoming mags overnight from both traditional mag areas as well as those in Co Durham and parts of Wearside. To me those defectors are glory hunters and actively seek approval of the mag tribe.They have an air of superiority and thrive on hating anything to do with SAFC and the City of Sunderland . Having converted over, yet never having set foot in SJP and the majority lack any knowledge of the history of their 'new' team but will wear their shirt at any opportunity.
We are now in a new era at SAFC of growth and genuine pride in the set up at SOL and my hope is that we can grow as a club to return to our former glories and finally stop being a football laughing stock. The football world are quick to notice our current form and the positive feel around the SOL. This will only help attract the younger element from the NE. I feel our pride is already growing and it's a pleasure for those who always kept the faith.
Well said that man.
 
You are obviously are a younger man. I speak as a 75 year old, my marra who is 10 years my senior and born in Consett and is still a season card holder today. I got it straight from the horses mouth.Co Durham meant something, unique in its use of County amongst all English counties. Ofcourse the population was not 100% red and white and nobody suggested this. Both clubs have proud and loyal support. Post 92 Keegan era, when we at SAFC were at a very low ebb,as were the mags,John Hall (ex SAFC Season Ticket Holder from Ashington) cleverly created this Geordie Nation, backed whole heartedly by the Tyneside and wider NE press and TV media.There was the traditional demoralised support for all things mag which regarded the pair as heroes. There was no doubt new found 'band waggoners' becoming mags overnight from both traditional mag areas as well as those in Co Durham and parts of Wearside. To me those defectors are glory hunters and actively seek approval of the mag tribe.They have an air of superiority and thrive on hating anything to do with SAFC and the City of Sunderland . Having converted over, yet never having set foot in SJP and the majority lack any knowledge of the history of their 'new' team but will wear their shirt at any opportunity.
We are now in a new era at SAFC of growth and genuine pride in the set up at SOL and my hope is that we can grow as a club to return to our former glories and finally stop being a football laughing stock. The football world are quick to notice our current form and the positive feel around the SOL. This will only help attract the younger element from the NE. I feel our pride is already growing and it's a pleasure for those who always kept the faith.
Did the same with the ice hockey team as well, bastards
 
It's in CLS, which is at least 60 - 40 NUFC, if not 70 - 30.

I know loads on here will disagree but having been brought up there, it's the truth.

Sunderland have a significant supporters club but that's down to the crap transport links to Sunderland compared to Newcastle.

Never was, until the Saudis bought nufc.

Now the plastics who thought football started in 1992, and would struggle to find their way to Sid James Park, let alone afford a season ticket, wander around Front Street from their suburban pied a terre in The Avenues wearing their sub DHGate quality tops, before scuttling back to watch the toon on their iffy Firesticks
 
We should be aspiring to those halcyon days of support.

I know people are saying the grounds full we don't need any more support, but we do. We always do. The club, and the city.
100%. You can never have too many fans. Let’s be honest here, and I’m not saying anything that isn’t true, it’s only now that we’re selling out as in only recently. We’ve got unbelievable support but we want as people following us as possible from a reputation and regional/national pride point of view.
 
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