Gordon Ottershaw
Midfield
Lots of vaccines contain live virus but it is attenuated so not pathogenic.
Injecting vaccine volunteers with live virus.
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because they have to give them the vaccine first, before they get the virus?
raindog
Winger
So they can't test the vaccine on someone who has currently got the virus... Funny that I was given a hib vaccine about 8 years ago when I already had a serious infection... Didn't do a thing mind so I was put on IV antibiotics
How would a vaccine to prevent someone becoming ill with something, work once they’ve already got it?
There’s a TB vaccine but we don’t treat TB with the vaccine.
There’s a flu vaccine but we don’t treat flu with the vaccine.
And so on...
Hansel
Winger
The vaccine is to protect against future infections, not the current one. It takes time to develop an immune response.
The vaccine is to protect against future infections, not the current one. It takes time to develop an immune response.
raindog
Winger
Well I had seasonal flu at the time and I was admitted to hospital bearing in mind a hib vaccine is very rare to use in adults as it was only introduced as a vaccine for Children in the 80s so In case they were concerned of pneumonia and infection as at the time there was that flesh eating virus all over the NHS... Maybe I was an unaware gueiinnea Pig
@raindog is a bit of an oddball mind:
- He thinks the USA invented AIDS to kill black people
- Has a chip on his shoulder about doctors, and takes decades old research with him when he sees his GP
- “Drip-feeds” himself COVID by meeting people he thinks have had it
- Believes flu vaccination doesn’t work and refuses to get it - despite his doctor recommending he has the jab
maybe because the flu vaccine didnt cure the flu he already had?
raindog
Winger
You will have quote me on the first one pal man cannot replicate nature by way of a mutating virus
The reason being the only one I had put me hospital for 3 weeks and left me with neurological pareneoplastic syndrome called Isaacs syndrome I could show you my youtube channel of hideous Cramps and fasiculations I have yearly follow up and my neurologist supports my use of Cannabis... Which despite trying every anti epileptic drugs on the market is the only thing that helps... But no cure.
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Here’s your quote:
Was it a joke? Was it sarcasm? Who knows
You are a loon though.
raindog
Winger
epic fail marra
Could be worse. I could embarrass myself by not knowing how a vaccine works, or by printing off decades old research and expecting my GP to read it
The complete lack of scientific literacy from people like yourself who pontificate about coronavirus is hilarious mind. Worrying but hilarious.
DoctorMick
Striker
As long as they know the risks and are well paid, which medical trials usually are I think, then I’m all for it.
Hardyman's Yugo
Striker
No different to the people who volunteer for first in man clinical drugs trials I guess. These sometimes go wrong but someone has to try it
joemcdokes
Striker
Nobel prize for what?
No Idea But We'll Give It A Go Anyway.
No Idea But We'll Give It A Go Anyway.
I’m pretty sure we do treat rabies with the rabies vaccine to be fair. Clearly wouldn’t be helpful in this context though.
The exception that proves the rule. Didn’t know that though - good bit of info to have.
Boz33
Striker
Jenner did similar over 200 years ago. Infected an 8 yr old iirc with cow pox, then infected him with small pox to prove that the people who’d had cowpox were immune to small pox, thus producing the first vaccine
I’m sure it’ll be a lot safer when doing these trials nowadays like
FootballFan
Striker
Isnt this what drug companies always do?
Not ideal but people do volunteer
Not ideal but people do volunteer
