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If we'd bought Pitman in January

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robbied1 said:
Definitely a better all round player, I think Evans would have been hungry to make up for lost time
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Agreed. Grigg looks disinterested at times.

Botchie said:
He hasn't been fit and I don't think we have anyone who compliments him. The Wigan manager said he wasn't playing for them because of those exact reasons.
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Unsure why he wouldn't be fit by now. If he's been carrying an injury since signing then again, the point stands. It makes you question why we signed him.

They seemed to be unprepared for the transfer window in January, we were negotiating for Grigg all month, some of the other targets were desperate. The Maja saga didn't help, but could it have been handled any better? Could it have been resolved sooner? I suppose it's difficult to say.
 
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robbied1 said:
We shouldn't have turned down ched Evans. I think the club were worried about the baggage with Ched, but for me, he would have been a better signing than grigg
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I think this board has already debated this one to death and it doesn’t need reheating.

Too right they were worried about baggage. We’ve got a PR man in charge. We’ve had a bloke managing us who showed a predilection for fascism and got us reams of negative press.

Then the club’s name was dragged through the shite even further with Johnson and garnered us the sort of negative attention that can make a brand toxic.

We’re just recovering from that.

Would have been absolute batshit to have signed him. Definitely a case of twice bitten…
 
Tony Towers Fanclub said:
I think this board has already debated this one to death and it doesn’t need reheating.

Too right they were worried about baggage. We’ve got a PR man in charge. We’ve had a bloke managing us who showed a predilection for fascism and got us reams of negative press.

Then the club’s name was dragged through the shite even further with Johnson and garnered us the sort of negative attention that can make a brand toxic.

We’re just recovering from that.

Would have been absolute batshit to have signed him. Definitely a case of twice bitten…
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Without going into it the guy has just won quite a bit in damages and he was innocent. If you don't think it needs reheating don't comment on it. I'm basing it purely on football ability alone, although it's easy to say in hindsight
 
gipetto said:
Unsure why he wouldn't be fit by now. If he's been carrying an injury since signing then again, the point stands. It makes you question why we signed him.
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I agree in a way, marra. There seems to be plenty of players in the division who are capable of scoring goals. However I do think if we get him fit and play to his strengths then he will score goals.
 
Paolo's Right Hand said:
He likes it on the deck played in behind the defence. We pump it up to him against lads that are near 7 foot and weight 18 stone. Ross hasn’t a clue
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Exactly you should buy players to suit your style of play, Grigg seems to me to be a player who wants balls on the deck played through from midfield that he can run onto and we dont seem to have anyone to consistently supply him with this type of service. He looks as sick as a chip to me, not happy at all in this team.
 
scraff said:
Exactly you should buy players to suit your style of play, Grigg seems to me to be a player who wants balls on the deck played through from midfield that he can run onto and we dont seem to have anyone to consistently supply him with this type of service. He looks as sick as a chip to me, not happy at all in this team.
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That’s how we used to play at the start of the season. We also used to flood the box and force the ball in at times, there was player after player lining up for a shot.
Now, we pump it up and hope that McGeady creates a moment of magic for us. Then sit back and hope the keeper can keep things out. f***ing terrible management.
 
Paddy O'Dors said:
As I said numerous times, we'd be up now. Couldn't get a game for them before Christmas. Would have weakened them tremendously too.
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He wouldn't fit into to your team. His days as a league 1 lone striker are done, and playing in the number 10 role requires the rest of the midfield to do a lot of running for him, which I don't think would have worked with Cattermole, Leadbitter and McGeady.

Of our strikers, Hawkins and Bogle would both have been better choices than Pitman, as they have more physicality and pace. As much as this forum wouldn't agree, you'd also have benefited from Vaughan as a back up striker, I think he'd have got a lot more game time than Sterling...
 
robbied1 said:
Without going into it the guy has just won quite a bit in damages and he was innocent. If you don't think it needs reheating don't comment on it. I'm basing it purely on football ability alone, although it's easy to say in hindsight
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Okay. I’m a journalist of over 25 years so have both studied and indeed taught media law – which of course includes judicial law – and the Evans case was very much a cause celebre in journalistic circles.

I kind of couldn’t be arsed to reheat it as I have been at the match today and I’ve just got in and I’m knackered to write this but I will.

He wasn’t proved innocent I’m afraid. He was originally found guilty and later acquitted – but we cannot say he was found innocent of the crime. He wasn’t unable to prove that.

Because that’s it how our judicial system works – the jury were asked whether they could prove beyond reasonable doubt about his guilt. They were unable to. But that is different to being proved not guilty.

I’m sure you’ve thoroughly looked into the case and have your own opinions but I found the evidence about his behaviour around the night in question extremely unsavoury to say the least, personally.

As I said, we’ve been associated with a couple of dubious characters over recent years. Just feel like we could have done with us swerving further reams of negative press that would have surely followed when signing him – especially given our track record. A further damaging of our reputation in the light of the Johnson case (and PdC’s extremist views to a lesser extent) is not a price worth paying in my book, but each to his own.

I know there are plenty others who give less of a shit. Fair enough. Each to his own.
 
chave said:
He wouldn't fit into to your team. His days as a league 1 lone striker are done, and playing in the number 10 role requires the rest of the midfield to do a lot of running for him, which I don't think would have worked with Cattermole, Leadbitter and McGeady.

Of our strikers, Hawkins and Bogle would both have been better choices than Pitman, as they have more physicality and pace. As much as this forum wouldn't agree, you'd also have benefited from Vaughan as a back up striker, I think he'd have got a lot more game time than Sterling...
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He's rejuvenated your team. I dunno why you're mentioning Vaughan in the same sentence tbh.
 
Paddy O'Dors said:
As I said numerous times, we'd be up now. Couldn't get a game for them before Christmas. Would have weakened them tremendously too.
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I don't think he's that good to be honest.

He looks overweight and slow and got lucky with hitting that shot today. He had a few others which he skied.
 
gipetto said:
Grigg has been so disappointing. I hadn't seen much of him before he signed but most seemed to believe he was good in this league and would be a canny signing. I just don't get what he brings to the side.

You'd think we could have done so much better with the money we spent on him. Sterling was a waste of a loan signing as well mind.
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He’s not fit mate. Really, we would have been better off letting him recover properly from his injury
 
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