ID checks for away tickets

[Hank Scorpio]

Not that I've heard of but there's more noise about it happening.

There were a good number of fans who were refused entry at Forest, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City as they didn't have the correct ID matching the name on the ticket.

This will, imo, become more widespread as the 'closed shop brigade' get louder.

The amount of people trying to sell on tickets for Brighton on Facebook etc only highlights the issue and it's unfair on fans on lower points who are trying to get to tickets to the game.

Mate I’ll be honest and admit, I’ve been shocked with the tickets floating around on that Facebook page recently. But let’s be honest, that page has been an issue for a while.

The closed shop brigade do piss me off a bit mind. I have total sympathy for those with 10+ points trying to get a ticket but the biggest moaners I have come across have no points.

 

[SAFC2012]

Mate I’ll be honest and admit, I’ve been shocked with the tickets floating around on that Facebook page recently. But let’s be honest, that page has been an issue for a while.

The closed shop brigade do piss me off a bit mind. I have total sympathy for those with 10+ points trying to get a ticket but the biggest moaners I have come across have no points.

I'm not shocked at all. Numerous people send me examples, virtually every game, as they're sick of not being able to get to more popular games despite getting to a reasonable points total over the last 3 years the best they're achieving is phase 3 and the mad scramble. Fortunately they're getting to the majority of games, but when they miss out they're missing out 2 fold (i.e. not getting to that game and falling behind in the points table).

The biggest moaners, imo, are those that have had season tickets for numerous years but never bothered with the unfashionable games but now want to go most weeks in the PL.

 

[tunstallhill]

Tbf mate, our club hasn’t implemented anything. The checks at City were at their request. The recent warning was that other clubs might follow.

The issue at the moment is a lot of big clubs are becoming increasingly annoyed with third parties cashing in.

Frankly they don’t give a shit about Barry giving his season ticket to his mate to use for a game.

What they are pissed about is Barry selling his ticket at an inflated price to a third party; and then the third party charging even sillier money for fans to bypass the usual ticketing process to get into the ground.

It sends them crazy to think that a ticket worth perhaps £45, has been sold to a third party for say £100 and then it’s being listed for £200.

Of course it also means that the third parties can sell tickets in the home end to visiting fans. When Rangers visited Old Trafford last season, thousands of them got into the home end.


Have bans been implemented though? I haven’t heard of any

Surely this isn't a problem at Sunderland?

Can't say I've ever seen an away ticket sold on a Third party website

 

[shootsitgoeswide]

Surely this isn't a problem at Sunderland?

Can't say I've ever seen an away ticket sold on a Third party website

100% this happens.

my mate wanted a ticket for the man city game and was on some third party site looking for a ticket in the man city end as you needed a membership to buy from the city website and there was 'away section' tickets on there for £350, he never paid it like , he got one in the city end for £58 from that same website

 

[tunstallhill]

100% this happens.

my mate wanted a ticket for the man city game and was on some third party site looking for a ticket in the man city end as you needed a membership to buy from the city website and there was 'away section' tickets on there for £350, he never paid it like , he got one in the city end for £58 from that same website

Wow. I'd like to know if anyone has actually paid that, ever..
.and if so, did the ticket actually work ?

 

[SAFC2012]

Surely this isn't a problem at Sunderland?

Can't say I've ever seen an away ticket sold on a Third party website

There’s tickets on sale for Brighton in the Sunderland section for £199 on seat pick at the moment. It happens every single away game. £272.64 including all the booking fees etc.

 

[Smiter]

Mate I’ll be honest and admit, I’ve been shocked with the tickets floating around on that Facebook page recently. But let’s be honest, that page has been an issue for a while.

The closed shop brigade do piss me off a bit mind. I have total sympathy for those with 10+ points trying to get a ticket but the biggest moaners I have come across have no points.

There seems to be loads kicking about for Brighton and I think it’s as simple as people just hoovering up every ticket, then realising they have a wife and kids and maybe make a bit time for them at Christmas.



The loyalty point system has created a monster.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

Wow. I'd like to know if anyone has actually paid that, ever..
.and if so, did the ticket actually work ?

It’s not uncommon for the third party to not actually have the ticket at the point of sale for certain games. For that reason, they will set the price at a silly level which then gives them a buffer to locate a ticket and still make a profit.

For the City away ticket they probably thought they could get one for say £150-£200 from someone before the match and still make a nice profit.

 

[peachy]

Surely this isn't a problem at Sunderland?

Can't say I've ever seen an away ticket sold on a Third party website

Don't know if they actually sold, but there were tickets on offer for sale for NUFC the Monday night before they actually went on sale on the Tuesday. Price, from memory, was around £200 with about £140 admin type charge on top of that.

 

[Towers76]

Whatever system we had there would be guys looking to get round it to make a few quid. Even happening with "touts" for want of a better expression buying home season tickets and looking to sell home tickets on the very same sites. I've said it before many time I simply do not understand why the club don't just get some staff members to create some fake accounts and buy up the tickets on facebook and other reselling sites and then find the source and ban them. Cancel the Season Card of whoever is selling them and resell it to a fan on the waiting list to cover the cost of the whole exercise. Publish the names of those banned on the website to deter others. Bit like my earlier message of 40 West Ham fans being banned. Soon stop them

 

[shootsitgoeswide]

Wow. I'd like to know if anyone has actually paid that, ever..
.and if so, did the ticket actually work ?

well the lads man city home end ticket worked and hes bought tickets for the darts a few times off the same website and they all worked, no reason to think the £350 away end tickets wouldn't.

silly prices them tho but if people are desperate they will pay it.

 

[chicken nugget]

There’s tickets on sale for Brighton in the Sunderland section for £199 on seat pick at the moment. It happens every single away game. £272.64 including all the booking fees etc.

Club should just buy it then ban the 'supporter' who flogging it and bill him the cost.

 

[southside]

Not that I've heard of but there's more noise about it happening.

There were a good number of fans who were refused entry at Forest, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool and Man City as they didn't have the correct ID matching the name on the ticket.

This will, imo, become more widespread as the 'closed shop brigade' get louder.

The amount of people trying to sell on tickets for Brighton on Facebook etc only highlights the issue and it's unfair on fans on lower points who are trying to get to tickets to the game.

Never seen so many tickets on that page for an away game, club seems to be targeting branches first for some reason, it’s that page that needs shutting down. All down to scrafton trying to help fans but in doing so fuckign it for everyone else

 

[viccarlton]

Never seen so many tickets on that page for an away game, club seems to be targeting branches first for some reason, it’s that page that needs shutting down. All down to scrafton trying to help fans but in doing so fuckign it for everyone else

Branches are definitely bearing the brunt.

 

[southside]

Branches are definitely bearing the brunt.

100% mate I’d say easy 9/10 if not all tickets that brnaches get are people who are actually going and not just buying it for the point then putting it on Facebook to sell

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

There’s tickets on sale for Brighton in the Sunderland section for £199 on seat pick at the moment. It happens every single away game. £272.64 including all the booking fees etc.

Club should buy the tickets on those sites, cancel the ticket, get their money back from seatpick and then wipe all points from season ticket or cancel season ticket altogether.

 

[BarnesPark]

The interesting thing with how this thread is going is that people seem to think

1) giving your ticket to a mate or family member should be no problem - you’ve done the miles so it’s up to you

2) people selling tickets on the black market should be banned from the club, have their SC card removed etc.

Despite these 2 opposite opinions, both are banned under the same rule that tickets cannot be transferred to another person. This would suggest the rules are not nuanced enough.

Maybe the answer is people are allowed to transfer, say 5 away tickets a year via the club website to anyone with a membership number so they can officially “give their ticket to a mate” and there is a level of control.

Anybody found selling, or advertising a ticket for sale receives the harshest punishment.

The other option I thought about was whether people with 60+ points should be able to buy 2 tickets in the first phase and transfer one to someone else to allow them to “take their lad” etc. The amount of tickets they could buy a season would be capped at 19 though so if they bought 2 for Old Trafford, they’d have to miss another (probably less fashionable) match.

 

[Mansfield Mackem]

If I set someone up as a standard relationship on the ticket website can I still buy them away tickets? Or does it have to be a strong relationship?

 

[Mowgli]

If I set someone up as a standard relationship on the ticket website can I still buy them away tickets? Or does it have to be a strong relationship?

Standard is fine

 

[tunstallhill]

The interesting thing with how this thread is going is that people seem to think

1) giving your ticket to a mate or family member should be no problem - you’ve done the miles so it’s up to you

2) people selling tickets on the black market should be banned from the club, have their SC card removed etc.

Despite these 2 opposite opinions, both are banned under the same rule that tickets cannot be transferred to another person. This would suggest the rules are not nuanced enough.

Maybe the answer is people are allowed to transfer, say 5 away tickets a year via the club website to anyone with a membership number so they can officially “give their ticket to a mate” and there is a level of control.

Anybody found selling, or advertising a ticket for sale receives the harshest punishment.

The other option I thought about was whether people with 60+ points should be able to buy 2 tickets in the first phase and transfer one to someone else to allow them to “take their lad” etc. The amount of tickets they could buy a season would be capped at 19 though so if they bought 2 for Old Trafford, they’d have to miss another (probably less fashionable) match.

Yep there's a massive difference