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Hume Hybrid Role

Raven5 said:
Not really, Talbi played mostly at RW before joining and Angulo can also play both wings.
Moving any of them on the other side won't be as disruptive as playing a RB out of position.
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Talbi looked crap at RW. As bad as Hume at best. Angulo has hardly played in the right. Almost exclusively on the left.
 

The only thing I can think of in regards to Hume constantly being picked is that he's showing more commitment than Geertruida in training, we know RLB's a sucker for good temperament & character, maybe Lutsharel is being a bit lazy at the AOL? Or maybe it's not even that it's just that Hume is ticking all the right boxes behind the scenes? Surely RLB can see what's happening on the pitch though. Hume looks like it's the first time he's played footy when he finds himself on the ball

It's actually mental how players seem to be having pure wee brain farts recently. Alderete's had a few, such as against Arsenal when his first touch out of defence had the beating of the man, so he quickly followed it with another, totally unnecessarily, which gave the ball straight to him and lead to their first goal. Diarra last night, running in to the opposition box before handing their defence the ball like that was his job. :lol:

Feel like a bit of a dick slagging any of them off after the last 12 months but last night's game was really frustrating to watch.
 
black-cat said:
The only thing I can think of in regards to Hume constantly being picked is that he's showing more commitment than Geertruida in training, we know RLB's a sucker for good temperament & character, maybe Lutsharel is being a bit lazy at the AOL? Or maybe it's not even that it's just that Hume is ticking all the right boxes behind the scenes? Surely RLB can see what's happening on the pitch though. Hume looks like it's the first time he's played footy when he finds himself on the ball

It's actually mental how players seem to be having pure wee brain farts recently. Alderete's had a few, such as against Arsenal when his first touch out of defence had the beating of the man, so he quickly followed it with another, totally unnecessarily, which gave the ball straight to him and lead to their first goal. Diarra last night, running in to the opposition box before handing their defence the ball like that was his job. :lol:

Feel like a bit of a dick slagging any of them off after the last 12 months but last night's game was really frustrating to watch.
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Why are people constantly banging on about Hume playing instead of Geertruida? Hume has been playing right wing, Geertruida is a centre half who can also play right back and defensive midfield. I know Hume isn't a right winger either but he's not being picked ahead of Geertruida out there. He's in ahead of one of our left wingers and maybe Rigg over there, not Gerti
 
I think epitomizes Imposter syndrome. He is manifestly unfit for the role but the man with the controls keeps giving him the role.
I can’t believe he gets the armband in front of someone like Ballard or even Le Fee
For me he is still dining out on the brereton Diaz and Rogers tackles and that’s all he brings to the table
 
Smiler said:
Why are people constantly banging on about Hume playing instead of Geertruida? Hume has been playing right wing, Geertruida is a centre half who can also play right back and defensive midfield. I know Hume isn't a right winger either but he's not being picked ahead of Geertruida out there. He's in ahead of one of our left wingers and maybe Rigg over there, not Gerti
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Because he’s presumably living Hume because of his abilities as a full back seeing as his attributes for a winger or midfielder are so poor. Whereas you’ve got geertruida who actually has experience of playing Humes usual role and elements of the role he’s being asked to play and is far better at that side of things.

Agree though, would rather we were playing a left winger right wing than a right back right wing.
 
Someone ringing up BBC after the game on Hume kind of summed Sunderland fans up tbh “YOU WILL NEVER EVER CONVINCE ME GARY” Basically people decide someone is something and no matter what they subsequently do, they’re the problem. Anyone that’s actually watched the last three games can’t see Hume as the major issue. Seen people saying Anguilla is the answer, despite him next to never playing on the right. A new shiny player must be the answer. As usual. None of our out and out wingers are right wingers. Our biggest threat on the right is Mukiele. By Hume playing it gives you the defensive security for him to push forward. It worked against Palace. We got our best away win of the season with it.

Is Hume the long term answer? Nope. But all the alternatives come with equal if not worse drawbacks than him.
 
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I'll be livid if RLB persists with this.

It's driven Speakmann out of the club, Geertruda has had his head turned because of it, pretty sure I read that a member of the cafeteria staff has gone on strike as well.

This will be the undoing of RLB, mark my words
 
All our wingers are right footed. So if you play one on the right, they’ll naturally go down the line. Which totally deprives our best attacking outlet on that side, Mukiele, of any space to get forward.
 
This Hume midfield debate highlights what position is key and lacking depth in our squad. Xhaka is a massive miss from the side.
Personally I don’t think Hume is suited to this role, he doesn’t deserve any flak for trying his best in an unfamiliar role.
The onus is on LeBris to change it up, maybe use Geertruida or Mukiele in this role instead and put Hume back to Right back.
 
Cucaracha said:
This Hume midfield debate highlights what position is key and lacking depth in our squad. Xhaka is a massive miss from the side.
Personally I don’t think Hume is suited to this role, he doesn’t deserve any flak for trying his best in an unfamiliar role.
The onus is on LeBris to change it up, maybe use Geertruida or Mukiele in this role instead and put Hume back to Right back.
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Then you lose Mukiele overlapping on the right
 
Smiler said:
Why are people constantly banging on about Hume playing instead of Geertruida? Hume has been playing right wing, Geertruida is a centre half who can also play right back and defensive midfield. I know Hume isn't a right winger either but he's not being picked ahead of Geertruida out there. He's in ahead of one of our left wingers and maybe Rigg over there, not Gerti
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I didn't mean to play in the same position as much as just to play in general. Hume in defence has been phenomenal. Hume out of defence has been massively lacking. I dare say the lad would admit as much himself and deserves a lot of credit really for persevering.

Just seems strange after recent performances to stick with that system with Hume on the wing. Perhaps RLB can't figure out a system whereby he brings in Geertruida to play central and sticks someone else out there entirely?
 
Safc98 said:
Then you lose Mukiele overlapping on the right
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Not if you put Geertruida in for Hume but for whatever reason, RLB doesnt fancy it. You still get the right sided wide midfielder tucking in with the ability of a fullback, but you also have someone who can make a pass more than half the time when in midfield.

No one can tell me there's a huge gulf in their defensive ability, even if you think Hume is better, but the gulf in their ability on the ball is massive
woodlebert said:
He played on the right because of injuries at Bruges which gave him his breakthrough, he's a left winger mainly
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Yeah but there's a massive difference between a left sided winger playing on the right wing and playing a defensive full back there right? Technically they're both playing out of position, but its far more natural to one than the other.
 
Smiler said:
Why are people constantly banging on about Hume playing instead of Geertruida? Hume has been playing right wing, Geertruida is a centre half who can also play right back and defensive midfield. I know Hume isn't a right winger either but he's not being picked ahead of Geertruida out there. He's in ahead of one of our left wingers and maybe Rigg over there, not Gerti
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Because that 1 switch would change the shape. People aren't suggesting Geertruida as a straight swap, but to come in (for Hume) at DMC
The Beautiful Game said:
Yeah but there's a massive difference between a left sided winger playing on the right wing and playing a defensive full back there right? Technically they're both playing out of position, but its far more natural to one than the other.
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I have no issue with Talbi getting time on the right, I'm just saying he wasn't signed as a right winger
 
The Beautiful Game said:
Not if you put Geertruida in for Hume but for whatever reason, RLB doesnt fancy it. You still get the right sided wide midfielder tucking in with the ability of a fullback, but you also have someone who can make a pass more than half the time when in midfield.

No one can tell me there's a huge gulf in their defensive ability, even if you think Hume is better, but the gulf in their ability on the ball is massive

Yeah but there's a massive difference between a left sided winger playing on the right wing and playing a defensive full back there right? Technically they're both playing out of position, but its far more natural to one than the other.
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I don’t disagree with playing Geetruida. Couple of things though. Hume has a contract till 2030. I feel Geetruida will be off at end of season. There’s a question of long term planning there with safety basically secured. Also understand the need and desire to win here and now. My other point is that being honest, whilst I’m not saying Hume is amazing, I never felt like Geetruida was great in midfield either over AFCON. He might be better, but not by a mile. Just my view. Was a great RCB in a five though.

I guess we will see on Sunday what the craic is with Geertruida.
 
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Hume is a capable roght back but as for a midfield role Hume makes us look like a person with a dislocated hip---- unbalanced!! We need to try other options its a glaring weakness. We have the luxury of being able to try different option at this stage?? Can not accept Hume is the answer in midfield
 
woodlebert said:
Because that 1 switch would change the shape. People aren't suggesting Geertruida as a straight swap, but to come in (for Hume) at DMC

I have no issue with Talbi getting time on the right, I'm just saying he wasn't signed as a right winger
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Ah got it. I'm not 100% sure about that either. He started the season on the right and, during pre-season, the plan was to go into the season with Mundle, Adringra, Talbi and Lauriente. 4 right footed wingers. Traore only came later once Lauriente fell through. Not saying I'm right, but I never understood looking at Lauriente when we already had those 4. We never at any point looked for a leading left footed right winger. We still havent tbf
 
It's not really working, is it? Seemed all over the pitch on Wednesday without really doing anything and was regularly dispossessed. He's a right back.
 
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