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Augustus Gloop
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fastest to 300 test wickets in terms of number of tests played. Do you expect him to catch Warne/Murali?
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Jack Torrance
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Useless outside of Asia
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Augustus Gloop
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Yeah, its a charge leveled against him but TBH don't think you can necessarily say this, simply because of sample size
Between 2011 and 2015 he had 9 matches outside the subcontinent, 24 wickets @ 56.58 which certainly supports your argument
However, since 2015, he's played 4 matches outside the subcontinent, with 17 wickets @ 23.17 which is actually better than his career average (25.06)
The next 2 years will likely give us a better picture, with India slated for away series to SA (4), England (5), Australia (4) and WI (3)
mackemmover94
Central Defender
Good stats and good bowler - India's preference of white ball cricket may get in the way of catching the other two mind. Though as you say a busy calendar for them next couple of years with away tests by their own standards.
Big Bird
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All in the West Indies where the pictures were like the subcontinent
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Augustus Gloop
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So I decided to dig into this a bit more. Excluded India tour of WI
In SA: 1 test, 0 wickets. No spinner on either side took any wickets in the entire match
In Eng: 2 tests (2 innings), 3 wickets. Both were England innings victories
* The first one, Eng scored 350-odd, Ashwin bowled 12 overs for no wickets
* The second one, Eng scored 450-odd, Ashwin took 3 (2nd highest wicket taker for ind)
Nothing to write home about to be sure, but its just 2 innings. Not exactly something you can judge a cricketer on
In Aus, 6 matches (9 innings), 21 wickets for a wicket-per-innings ratio of 2.33 which is actually pretty decent.
Of these 6 matches, one was wicketless. If you take this one out, his wickets-per-innings ratio in Australia is actually better than Warne (2.62 for ashwin vs 2.47 for Warne [319 in 129 innings]). Of course I'm excluding one bad record for Ashwin but not doing the same for Warne, but the much smaller sample size (11 innings vs 129) means that one bad match skews the numbers a lot more.
Which brings me back to:
You can't simply dismiss Ashwin as a subcontinent-only bowler because he just hasn't bowled enough outside to make the argument either way
Big Bird
Goalkeeper
Fair enough you can't argue with them numbers in Australia but he was dropped after the first test in South Africa and not selected for the first 3 in England. He was not their first choice spinner overseas but time will tell as you say and I think he has improved in the last few years since these tours.
mackembhoy
Striker
Weren’t those 4 matches in the windies which is now a bunsen.
Away series of South Africa and England to come in 2018. Will see how good he actually is outside of the sub continent, as he has no sample size really(which to me points to him being maybe second to jadeja away)
Unreal player in the subcontinent, even if there seems to be a real lack of batsman who can play the spinning ball.
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