Haway / Ha'Way / Howay / Ho'way The Lads - Origin?

[TheStatCat]

Think there was a debate on here a while back as to where this came from.

Personally, I have moaned about the apostrophe in the seats for some years as I could not work out what it could be for. Looks like I was wrong and it really should be there.

A Mag historian mate (sorry) prompted me to have another rake around.

All of these from Sunderland Echo reports:

April 1890
Sunderland Reserves are playing Sunderland Olympic at Newcastle Road, someone encourages the reserve left winger with "How way Ledger".

May 1890
Sunderland are playing Bolton at Newcastle Road just prior to gaining entry to the football league. Our famous centre forward Johnny Campbell is egged on: "How way, Johnny, man!".

September 1894
Sunderland are playing Derby in the infamous game of 3 halves. The encouragement is now more general: "How way my lads".

So it goes goes right back to the early days of the club, and "how way" was a general term of encouragement in those days. Easy to see how it morphed from that to ho'way and ha'way, and the apostrophe lives...

The move to ha rather than ho probably just our mackem accents.

 

[Nig]

What about choss ?

 

[Secret Visage]

Howay = Mag

 

[TheStatCat]

What about choss ?

Aye, everything was choss at school in the 70's

 

[Porridge]

Aye, everything was choss at school in the 70's

And if it was really good it was "git choss"

 

[Teed]

Warrabout Cher?

 

[MackneyHackem]

Never seen it spelt with an O instead of an A when the apostrophe's included.

 

[Deleted member 6830]

Never seen it spelt with an O instead of an A when the apostrophe's included.

Agreed.
I prefer to be outraged by the presence of the apostrophe in the seats rather than accept/listen to facts

 

[Summer Bee]

comes from Hwæt surely?

 

[Dan The Man]

Warrabout Cher?

Sang shit songs

 

[HawaySkin]

If ya say haway ya a boyo
If ya say howay ya a sex offender

 

[Secret Visage]

If ya say haway ya a boyo
If ya say howay ya a sex offender

You've just said both.

 

[HawaySkin]

You've just said both.

Starting now!

 

[Vauxie]

Haway end of

 

[waddy999]

Could be derived from a nautical term given the history.
Aweigh - When the anchor is positioned just off the seabed.

 

[MackemTackem]

Ha'Way - Sunderland AFC
Howay - Horsepunchers United

End of Thread

 

[Vauxie]

Could be derived from a nautical term given the history.
Aweigh - When the anchor is positioned just off the seabed.

Great song

 

[ir35]

It depends how the author at the time interpreted what was being heard, there’s no argument for me it sounds like haway in a Sunderland accent.

 

[Grumpy Old Man]

This came up not so long ago, and I did some trawling on the origins of the word, in both spellings. This is my response to that thread; I stand by my conclusions then Wembley distraction thread Haway or Howay

 

[viccarlton]

Howay = Mag

Correct