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Harry Gardiner in from South Shields


Caden and Ellis have both played CF this year for the 23s. Chris Rigg plays as a number 10, there is no way all these players will be integrated into the first team at the same time either.
Rigg is a midfield player who is about 14, and Ellis Taylor is also not a CF but has played multiple positions.

Ellis Taylor is about 5 years older than Chris Rigg. They are not likely to be integrated in the first team at the same time.
 
Rigg is a midfield player who is about 14, and Ellis Taylor is also not a CF but has played multiple positions.

Ellis Taylor is about 5 years older than Chris Rigg. They are not likely to be integrated in the first team at the same time.

This thread is about Gardiner. Taylor and Caden are more highly rated than him in the academy.. thats not to say he wont go on to have a good career here or elsewhere.
 
Been told Chris Rigg has had conversations with a few Premier League clubs already. He's very highly rated. I know for certain that Chelsea and Crystal Palace had scouts watching him earlier on in the season.
 
Been told Chris Rigg has had conversations with a few Premier League clubs already. He's very highly rated. I know for certain that Chelsea and Crystal Palace had scouts watching him earlier on in the season.

You can view the scouting list when you first walk into the academy to watch the 18s game. United, City, Blackburn, Arsenal are regulars.
 
This thread is about Gardiner. Taylor and Caden are more highly rated than him in the academy.. thats not to say he wont go on to have a good career here or elsewhere.
You specifically named them, and said they all play in the same position...they don't.
 
You specifically named them, and said they all play in the same position...they don't.

I am telling you now, he is not rated higher than any of those players. Chris Rigg will play for the 23s this year at some point and train with the first team on day release.
 
Rigg will get a huge offer from Chelsea/United/City/Arsenal or a team based in Germany within the next few months.
The inequality in football is horrendous. I read Liverpool are paying £600k for a youngster from Celtic. For these clubs that is buttons. It's very little risk. We all know that the kid who is best at 14 probably won't be the best at 20. Look at England youth teams in the past who have won tournaments and many of the players don't end up playing at a high level. Rigg is obviously an amazing prospect but that is it - a prospect. When I was young we would have Rowell, Elliott and Arnott come through or whoever and there was no talk of them going as kids. We know Henderson wasn't the best prospect at 15.

Now the top clubs pick off any good prospect at age 15/16 in the full knowledge that even then most won't make it to the first team. They will spend millions on this on the hope that a small number come through. It's desperately cynical.
 
I am telling you now, he is not rated higher than any of those players. Chris Rigg will play for the 23s this year at some point and train with the first team on day release.
That is completely irrelevant to what you actually said. Of course Rigg is a better prospect, but now you're just changing the subject, but what you said, was wrong. You are allowed to say you made an error, it isn't illegal 😄
 
The inequality in football is horrendous. I read Liverpool are paying £600k for a youngster from Celtic. For these clubs that is buttons. It's very little risk. We all know that the kid who is best at 14 probably won't be the best at 20. Look at England youth teams in the past who have won tournaments and many of the players don't end up playing at a high level. Rigg is obviously an amazing prospect but that is it - a prospect. When I was young we would have Rowell, Elliott and Arnott come through or whoever and there was no talk of them going as kids. We know Henderson wasn't the best prospect at 15.

Now the top clubs pick off any good prospect at age 15/16 in the full knowledge that even then most won't make it to the first team. They will spend millions on this on the hope that a small number come through. It's desperately cynical.

Henderson wasn't even the best prospect at 18 or so. Nathan Luscombe was expected to be the one to go on and make a pro career then Colback. JH was a steady but relatively late developer.
Technically the scouts are not allowed to watch the u16s game which is a little stupid when the they are bang next to each other.

It makes zero sense. Like you say they play right next to each other. It happens as we all know.
 
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Henderson wasn't even the best prospect at 18 or so. Nathan Luscombe was expected to be the one to go on and make a pro career then Colback. JH was a steady but relatively late developer.


It makes zero sense. Like you say they play right next to each other. It happens as we all know.
You could add Waghorn to that
 
The inequality in football is horrendous. I read Liverpool are paying £600k for a youngster from Celtic. For these clubs that is buttons. It's very little risk. We all know that the kid who is best at 14 probably won't be the best at 20. Look at England youth teams in the past who have won tournaments and many of the players don't end up playing at a high level. Rigg is obviously an amazing prospect but that is it - a prospect. When I was young we would have Rowell, Elliott and Arnott come through or whoever and there was no talk of them going as kids. We know Henderson wasn't the best prospect at 15.

Now the top clubs pick off any good prospect at age 15/16 in the full knowledge that even then most won't make it to the first team. They will spend millions on this on the hope that a small number come through. It's desperately cynical.

Rigg is on another level to the Greenwood/Neil/Mumba age group.
 
is there anything we can even do about stopping big PL clubs just cherry picking our best kids before they get a proper chance at league football here? im assuming even if we were in the PL the same would still happen
 
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