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Gus - Radio Ncle

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Dogbark said:
No we're not.
The TV money was used up with wages and fees for the players.
We're not struggling to pay off debt.
We've had consecutive seasons in the top flight, longer than any of those clubs.
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We've failed to break 40 points last two seasons so we're not exactly pulling up any trees, despite 7 seasons worth of parachute money.
What's your argument re the TV money? We all know where its gone, my argument is that we've spent our money badly.
regarding the debt, obviously a lot of that is legacy from drumaville, but again a series of poor decisions in terms of managerial appointments, the udinese model etc has probably cost the club upwards of 50 million quid
 
Coeus said:
You seem to be pushing very hard that Congo is responsible for the players he recruited when there are many quotes and facts that suggest otherwise.

Think it is time for that stance to be taken though. If he wants to relinquish responsibility for the squad at his disposal, he should allow the DOF to do his stuff rather than spit his dummy out every 5 minutes and sign all his mates from Brighton.
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What's the point of having a DOF, who isn't responsible for R&R? It's his job. Gus has spoken about it ad nauseum. The buck has to rest with him. You wouldn't hold Congerton responsible for day to day team affairs. I can't see what's so difficult to understand about it. :confused:
Unless I've totally misunderstood the owner's management model?
 
chopsfc007 said:
most agreed with keeping the same team as stoke game bar 1 enforced change how many of the goals were individual mistakes nothing that gus can do about it
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Sorry!!!! But ultimately the responsibility for results and performances rest with Gus Poyet.

I'm certainly not advocating sacking him, but he should be ashamed of his team's performance yesterday
 
No matter what Gus may think, the buck stops with him for yesterday. Congerton and Short can't be held responsible for a set of players just totally giving up
 
Unashamedly Handsome said:
What's the point of having a DOF, who isn't responsible for R&R? It's his job. Gus has spoken about it ad nauseum. The buck has to rest with him. You wouldn't hold Congerton responsible for day to day team affairs. I can't see what's so difficult to understand about it. :confused:
Unless I've totally misunderstood the owner's management model?
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I certainly think it is far muddier than you believe. What your describing was the initial purpose, I believe that changed as soon as Poyet had a bargaining position.

The DoF position has become completely distorted in my opinion.
 
Poyet may not be as "Me, me, me" as Di Canio when things are going well, but Christ he is every bit as shameless in deflecting the blame when things aren't going to plan.
 
Someone said on here ,when Gus was appointed,that it was a case of out of the frying pan into the fire.
Him and DiCanio do seem to like absolving themselves of any blame:(
I'm usually classed as a happy clapper but can't find anything to applaud at the moment.
 
ah fuck it. Sack Poyet Ellis, go cap in hand to Roy and apologise for everything. Ambramovic did it with Mourinho.

Let's have some more fireworks.
 
Unashamedly Handsome said:
Numerous reasons other than his core business. :lol: we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Where have you got this set in stone belief that its his "core" business. Did you read it on here?

Have you seen anywhere that its written in print or direct quotes to even suggest that these players are the dof's pick?

Is it pure coincidence that the players used to play for Poyet and then he spoke in detail as to why he wanted them?

Ill agree to be dumfounded by your smiley. I would be happy if we had in place what you suggest as I believe Poyet has talent, picking players to buy is not one of them.
 
Coeus said:
Where have you got this set in stone belief that its his "core" business. Did you read it on here?

Have you seen anywhere that its written in print or direct quotes to even suggest that these players are the dof's pick?

Is it pure coincidence that the players used to play for Poyet and then he spoke in detail as to why he wanted them?

Ill agree to be dumfounded by your smiley. I would be happy if we had in place what you suggest as I believe Poyet has talent, picking players to buy is not one of them.
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Poyet is head coach. Recruitment & retention aren't in his remit. There may be occasions when Poyet's preferences coincide with those of the DOF. There will also be occasions when they won't. That's the deal. The smilies indicate I fail to see how something so logically symmetrical might defy an individual's comprehension. As I said, we can agree to disagree. :)
 
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