Future Internationals at The Riverside
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The Colonel
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That would be my take on it. Also I dont think that we have the administrative setup to cater for both our own county and the needs of the ECB. It puts unnecessary strain on it.
Struts
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Because Giles Clark and his crew don't like going anywhere North of Leeds.
wayne entwhistle no9
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Looks like the club is up a certain type of creek without a paddle. It can't make money from international cricket or domestic cricket, and is currently debt ridden.
So the big tests and odi look like they will be returning to the traditional major six test grounds in the country which will keep those counties as the financial power houses.
Then you look at our domestic cricket, it just appears twenty/20 does not work up here. I have been to these matches at Chelmsford and Hove and the atmosphere is electric with packed houses.
I remember going to the C&G semi finals against Essex the year we won the trophy then the following year against Kent, I thought the place would be packed but to be honest there was not any more people there than if we played Yorkshire on a sunny day.
My big concern as far as the actual cricket goes is that it looks like we will have to keep reducing the wage bill on the playing staff with the debts we have. That could mean that some of the more powerfull counties will be able to offer our younger players such as Stokes, Borthwick much more lucrative contracts than we can. I would think the club have worked out a figure where they would like the players wage bill to be at at the end of this season and probably more importantly at the end of the 2014 season. We got a points reduction for going over the £1.8 million salary cap i bet the club are looking to have that nearer the £1 million mark in eighteen months time when most of the big contracts are finished.
So the big tests and odi look like they will be returning to the traditional major six test grounds in the country which will keep those counties as the financial power houses.
Then you look at our domestic cricket, it just appears twenty/20 does not work up here. I have been to these matches at Chelmsford and Hove and the atmosphere is electric with packed houses.
I remember going to the C&G semi finals against Essex the year we won the trophy then the following year against Kent, I thought the place would be packed but to be honest there was not any more people there than if we played Yorkshire on a sunny day.
My big concern as far as the actual cricket goes is that it looks like we will have to keep reducing the wage bill on the playing staff with the debts we have. That could mean that some of the more powerfull counties will be able to offer our younger players such as Stokes, Borthwick much more lucrative contracts than we can. I would think the club have worked out a figure where they would like the players wage bill to be at at the end of this season and probably more importantly at the end of the 2014 season. We got a points reduction for going over the £1.8 million salary cap i bet the club are looking to have that nearer the £1 million mark in eighteen months time when most of the big contracts are finished.
The semi you mentioned was on a midweek.
Also, whether people like it or not the major market for T20 was for football fans to get pissed in the sun cheap during the summer. It was £6 during the first season. DCC now charge £20 and it's basically back to the cricket lovers - Durham's fault with the pricing, nowt to do with the market.
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johnson
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I agree. Im a massive cricket fan but not huge on the 20 20 stuff, can't see myself paying 20 quid. Why does it have to be so high? Tickets for a fiver on a Friday night would fly off the shelves and people could go down Chester for a few after.
It is, which is why Durham would have to pay the ECB more to stage it, seems like that is prohibitive now.
wayne entwhistle no9
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Yes both semis where, and there was no great increase in the crowd than the usual people you see down there at normal matches. The Essex game in particular was probably the biggest match in the clubs history and the sport loving public of the north east did not turn up.
As far as twenty/20 goes in the first season a lot of clubs where not sure it would work including us. But it took off straight away, grounds where packed. As you say tickets at Durham where £6 but to be honest Durham where giving away that many freebies you would probably have to live on Marsden rock not to get one. Yet still the Riverside was half empty.
My point about the club is that the traditional big test counties will continue to make big money from internationals. Then clubs like Essex,Sussex and Somerset make fantastic profits on twenty/20 as every game at the grounds are packed. Have you seen the profits Somerset have announced over the past 4 or 5 years. I fear that these clubs will be able to offer our star young players much better contracts than we will be able to in the future.
Rip Van Fish
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T20 needs a total revamp in the UK.
A move to franchises would bring more TV and sponsor monies.
9 teams with 2 overseas and 8 from each county per team in an 18 man squad. Counties to be paired ie Durham and Yorkshire, Derbys n Notts etc.
Each franchise plays 4 homes and 4 aways with all games live on SKY.
2 homes a piece.
T20 is boring here atm. Notts n Somerset, for example only have to turn up to qualify for the QF's.
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Harry Lime
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I'm a big cricket fan but the T/20 format is my least favourite form of the county game. I suspect a big portion of the home croud is made up of supporters like myself who attend because it's "our local lads" playing. I'd hate to see it go the way of football with a team made up of mainly "foreigners" and a token local lad thrown in.
Ticket pricing must play a massive part in the attendance figures with so many games played in a short period of time, I can imagine fans picking one game to watch for £20 instead of maybe 2 or 3 games if the price was £8-10. Bigger crouds means more beer and food sales, although seeing how the club seem to farm those out to contractors I wonder if the club actually benefits from the food and drink sales if its a large croud, or do they just get a set amount from the venders regardless?
Either way it doesn't seem to be the cash cow the ECB thought it would be.
Ticket pricing must play a massive part in the attendance figures with so many games played in a short period of time, I can imagine fans picking one game to watch for £20 instead of maybe 2 or 3 games if the price was £8-10. Bigger crouds means more beer and food sales, although seeing how the club seem to farm those out to contractors I wonder if the club actually benefits from the food and drink sales if its a large croud, or do they just get a set amount from the venders regardless?
Either way it doesn't seem to be the cash cow the ECB thought it would be.
wayne entwhistle no9
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More i think the cash cow the counties thought it would be. The ECB got the format spot in the first season it was an short mid season jamboree. Then the counties saw the crowds insisted that more matches where played and they over egged the pudding and it became to long and tedious.
It is the same with the champions league trophy in India. It was the counties who insisted that the season start earlier so they could take part in that when our season should still be going on. This has resulted in the ridiculous situation when counties have played a quarter of their county championship matches in April. Then in mid summer they play to many twenty20 matches.
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The Colonel
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Clearly the T20 needs to be revamped and clearly Durham CCC need to promote themselves more. Hardly anyone in the County knows when Durham are playing as their marketing is poor.
Clearly the pricing structure is also wrong. A T20 game should be no more than say £10 for an adult and say £4 for a child.
Clearly the pricing structure is also wrong. A T20 game should be no more than say £10 for an adult and say £4 for a child.
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